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  • bensdad
    Low Range
    • Mar 2014
    • 77

    Speedo Cable

    Bought the new speedo cable through our hosts and thought gee how hard could this be? Like everything on my '60 Series 2 it is harder than it looks. How in the heck do you get to those three super small screws/bolts that secure the cable to the transfer case?
    Thanks for any suggestions you could throw at me!!
  • SafeAirOne
    Overdrive
    • Apr 2008
    • 3435

    #2
    The easiest way is probably with a screw-holding screwdriver.

    The cheapest, most readily-available method would be to put a glob of the thickest grease you have available in the garage, onto the end of the screwdriver and stick the screw into it when you start each screw.
    --Mark

    1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

    0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
    (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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    • lumpydog
      3rd Gear
      • May 2014
      • 383

      #3
      Window glazing works well too!
      1968 Series IIa
      1997 Defender SW (Original Owner - Sold)

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      • bensdad
        Low Range
        • Mar 2014
        • 77

        #4
        Wow

        Okay, so I got the three little bolts out and now I know why the speedo wasn't working. The square shaft inside the spring outer cover twisted or snapped off flush with the transfer case housing. It left the square shaft inside!!
        Please don't tell me that I would have to take the hand brake drum, rear half shaft and inside seal off to get to it...maybe I don't really need a speedo? OMG

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        • SafeAirOne
          Overdrive
          • Apr 2008
          • 3435

          #5
          Just use a powerful magnet to retrieve it, presuming it's flush with the hole.
          --Mark

          1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

          0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
          (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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          • PavementEnds
            Low Range
            • Feb 2010
            • 84

            #6
            For the cable install, I substituted 10/32 Allen head bolts for the tiny slotted screws -- made the nearly impossible job do'able.

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            • SafeAirOne
              Overdrive
              • Apr 2008
              • 3435

              #7
              IIRC, the thread on the original screws are not a "normal" threads (like 10-28 or 10-32), but rather something oddball and British.
              --Mark

              1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

              0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
              (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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              • PavementEnds
                Low Range
                • Feb 2010
                • 84

                #8
                10/32 fit fine on mine, and the PO had not tapped it to something different. Mine is a 1973 S3. Still holding tight some years later.

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                • bensdad
                  Low Range
                  • Mar 2014
                  • 77

                  #9
                  Still working on getting the remaining piece out of the hole. It is really wound tight in there and there is nothing to grab. Will try some extra long fine tweezers. Of course it can't be easy.

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                  • lumpydog
                    3rd Gear
                    • May 2014
                    • 383

                    #10
                    I wonder if a water pick would work... hydro/pressure it out
                    1968 Series IIa
                    1997 Defender SW (Original Owner - Sold)

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                    • SafeAirOne
                      Overdrive
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 3435

                      #11
                      Originally posted by PavementEnds
                      10/32 fit fine on mine, and the PO had not tapped it to something different. Mine is a 1973 S3. Still holding tight some years later.
                      It's amazing how little information there is on the thread specs of these fasteners on the web. I only came up with one reference to the threads, and they were noted as 2BA threads which are somewhat similar to 10-32's:

                      BA threads have an included thread angle of 47.5 degrees as opposed to a 10-32's 60-degree included angle.
                      2BA threads have a pitch of 31.4 threads per inch vs. the 32 TPI (of course) on a 10-32 fastener.

                      Though the contact pattern and pitch are wrong, with the length of the fastener being only about a quarter inch, I can see how a 10-32 could be used in place of the 2BA screw, as you've successfully done for some time now.





                      FWIW, British Tools and Fasteners sells a variety of different styles of fasteners in 2BA, 1/4" length, some easier to stay on the installation tool than others:

                      http://www.britishfasteners.com/inde...s/steel-screws
                      --Mark

                      1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

                      0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
                      (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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                      • andrew
                        Low Range
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 86

                        #12
                        I was able to get mine out using some dental tools and a tweezers. I keep a set around for jobs like this. I think I bought them off ebay cheap.

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                        • bensdad
                          Low Range
                          • Mar 2014
                          • 77

                          #13
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                          Okay, got the SofaB out of the transfer case. Sheared off the pin from the speedo cable. I got the new cable in switching to hex bolts to make it simpler to get in. 10/32's I think.
                          Of course, the speedo doesn't work. It bounces around. Since the speedo is ancient and the face is very old I guess I have the following options:
                          1. buy a new one
                          2. send in to be redone
                          3. replace w a stock speedo or MG guage

                          What are your experiences and or suggestions??? Thanks for all the help to get it out!!

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                          • SafeAirOne
                            Overdrive
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 3435

                            #14
                            Is the new cable lubricated?
                            --Mark

                            1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

                            0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
                            (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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                            • bensdad
                              Low Range
                              • Mar 2014
                              • 77

                              #15
                              uh oh. Just bought it from our hosts where do you apply lubrication and what kind? OR the answer is no.

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