metal chunks in my transmission

[DGG]

I wanted to replace the transmission, and transfer box fluids in my 61 109 Station wagon before I install the freshly painted seat box. When draining the gearbox, metal chunks came out, and I put my finger in the drain hole and felt more metal chunks. Is there a particular part that commonly breaks in these? What am I in for as far as repair? I'm doing a frame off refurbishment, and I have complete access to the transmission and transfer box.

Incidentally, when draining the transfer box, ATF came out.

[SafeAirOne]

Are the chunks steel or brass? Flat (like a shim) or do they have more mass?

Pics?

[DGG]

They were pretty substantial chunks. Not sure if they are brass or steel. I will check.

[DGG]

All brass chunks. A few pieces look like they could be clutch pieces of some sort, and the other pieces were shafts that had a rotating part in the middle like a bearing. I looked in my workshop manual, but couldn't find any pieces similar.

[SafeAirOne]

Do you have a pic of the debris?

[DGG]

Here you go. Seems like something catastrophic happened.

[o2batsea]

Wow. No problems detected when driving?

[SafeAirOne]

Yes. Wow.


That's a COMPLETE synchronizer unit that's been destroyed there.

[DGG]

Wow. No problems detected when driving?

I've never driven the truck. I bought it 10 years ago, and immediately started the tear down. It wasn't running when I bought it.

[DGG]

I'm looking for an engine hoist to pull the gearbox etc...What am I in for?

[DGG]

Our hosts have the synchronizer. Genuine-$360 Proline-$160

[triumphtr7guy]

Morning Doug,

Well, glad you werent the one driving when that went, that must have gone with a bang.
You could get an engine hoist for pulling the tranny, if you have a concrete floor to work on, you could get a tranny cradle that fits into where the cup goes on a floor jack. and since the landy is mostly up in the air already, you wont have to jack it up too much, unlike when I have used the cradle on TR7's. Cradle is handy, you may find the engine hoist a little more utilitarian and useful than the cradle , as the cradle is pretty much a single purpose tool, the hoist comes in handy for lifting all kinds of things. Hoist will run you around $150, check your local aoto parts store, Harbor Freight if you have one nearby, I seem to remember Sears sells one. check their catalog.
Good luck, keep us posted

Bruce 80 TR7, almost done, almost
73 Series III next in line for the garage

[o2batsea]

I know of a couple good used transmissions. I wouldn't fool with that one.

[DGG]

Tell me more. How much, and where?

[slowmo]

Like the others have said you lost the syncro minimally. Just tear it down and see what else is messed up before making any decisions.

I had to rebuild my transmission earlier this year. Below is the thread on that. Honestly it is not that difficult of a job. Since you are doing a frame off restoration I would just do it rather than getting another tranny that may or may not have its' own problems. You can rent a hoist for $40 or so. The parts for my rebuild was around $1000 (all new bearings, couple of shafts, some gears).

http://forums.roversnorth.com/showthread.php?15962-Oh-noooo-tranmission!!