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  • thixon
    5th Gear
    • Jul 2007
    • 909

    #16
    Hi Jim,

    I don't think the bedliner idea is a great one. I've delt with jeeps, scouts, and broncos with floor pans sprayed or rolled with bedliner. Obviously, the underside can still rust, and when it does, its a bloody nightmare to remove the stuff to repair the rust. When you do, your left with how to respray the area you repaired, and have it match the existing areas. The short answer is that you can't, so you end up removing the bedliner everywhere and starting over.

    What I'm getting at is this: If you sprayed the outside of a bulkhead with bed liner, it could still rust from the inside (door posts, etc.). If it did, you'd play hell getting it repaired and looking good again. Just my 2 cents.

    By the way, I'm with you supporting U.S. companies. I go to the UK regularly on business. They don't think very highly of us for the most part in my experience.

    Travis
    Travis
    '66 IIa 88

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    • Jim-ME
      Overdrive
      • Oct 2006
      • 1379

      #17
      Thanks for the reply. I found it very helpful as well as thought provoking.
      Jim

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      • junkyddog11
        1st Gear
        • Feb 2007
        • 195

        #18
        Travis is right on with the bed liner being a bad idea. In fact most bed liners do a really good job of trapping moisture and creating a spot for corrosion to "nest" in.

        Bed liner can be applied over galvanized finishes, in foot wells etc....just do it prior to assembly so that all can be dissasembled again. Nothing worse than fastenings that are burried under bedliner.
        Matt Browne
        www.overlandengineering.com
        "resurecting junk through engineering"

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        • SIIaCanuck
          Low Range
          • Dec 2007
          • 2

          #19
          Easy on us Brits!

          Guys, I understand the frustration with some Brits who don't treat you Yanks with appropriate respect.

          I've accumulated 12 months in Iraq since 2003 and would rather fight alongside Americans than most Europeans (well, the Danes and Dutch are pretty solid too). Certainly better than those cheese eating surrender monkeys that inhabit France!

          Both our nations leaders may have made decisions in recent years based on naieve assumptions, but as an SAS officer was heard to comment after the Desert One problem in Iran, "at least you guys had the guts to try!"

          Just so you know, I'm half Canuck, half Brit. I've been in the RAF for 11 years and there are plenty of us who still believe in the world view that Sir Winston Churchill fought to defend. We are the "real" Brits and I hope you guys can ignore the others. I'm sure you've got plenty of similar idiots on that side of the pond.

          Anyway, I've had several friends and colleagues die in the Gulf working and fighting the same thugs that Americans are dealing with.

          Most of the people involved in the Land Rover scene in the UK are likely to be of the more traditional world view. We rely on our Land Rovers to get us into and out of fights in Iraq and Afghanistan and in and out of fields, trails, forests and mountains in the UK.

          The Land Rover is representative of traditional Britain. Churchill would drive one if he was still with us.

          If you come to the UK, you'll be welcome to visit my home.

          Some Brits believe that the US is the greatest problem the world has, but then some Americans believe they invented English. Let them join with the flat earth society and other such intellectual pond life while the rest of us can get on with reality.

          So before you kiss off any idea of supporting British business, please remember that the Land Rover is British and if you're driving/restoring one, then we can't be all that bad. Now if you refuse to drive a French or German car, then I fully understand.

          Stew
          Proud to be British! and Canadian! and to serve along with Americans! Lord help us if we ever have to rely on the Europeans to defend the western world!

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          • friar mike
            1st Gear
            • Nov 2007
            • 116

            #20
            Thanks IIaCanuck
            I have lived in the UK for a time my wifes job sent her over for a year so I taged along bought a motorcycle ( the best way to get around over there at least for me) My daughter is in school there now. being from Alaska I seem to have a eazyer time of it. Its a place alot of people want to go to. but I have been hanging out on a few brit rover boards and what a bunch of crap just asking a question will bring it on. Having lived there thay found out calling me names didn't work I know most of the slang and can give it right back! so this board has been great not many on here from my neck of the woods but a few and I have met them now and worked on one guys rover I know hes lerking out there some where. I have friends over in the Gulf glad to here you are back and I hope to be in the UK to see my daughter soon running my shop here keeps me from travling the way I used to.
            Onward threw the fog

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            • leafsprung
              Overdrive
              • Nov 2006
              • 1008

              #21

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              • SIIaCanuck
                Low Range
                • Dec 2007
                • 2

                #22
                I want one!

                Galv then box line the footwells. Genius! Is this a new bulkhead or a rebuilt one?

                I have considered getting a chassis coated (galv chassis) with box liner as that is how new Santanas are done.

                Stew

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                • leafsprung
                  Overdrive
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 1008

                  #23
                  thats an original firewall

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                  • thixon
                    5th Gear
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 909

                    #24
                    Hey Leafsprung,

                    Is that bulkhead sprayed with Rhinoliner, or did you spray it with one of those ZEM kits from the auto paint store. Just curious.

                    Travis
                    Travis
                    '66 IIa 88

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                    • leafsprung
                      Overdrive
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 1008

                      #25
                      line-x

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                      • Daurie
                        2nd Gear
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 251

                        #26
                        Does anyone supply replacement windscreen hinges? I have a S3 with the weld on type and they are showing a little fatigue.
                        '73 SIII 88"
                        Turner 8:1 Engine
                        NRP Exhaust
                        Roverdrive
                        RM Parabolics
                        OME Shocks
                        Warn 8274
                        Pangolin4X4 bumper

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                        • Richard
                          Low Range
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 25

                          #27
                          Ike, when you galvanize a bulkhead, how do you deal with the captive nuts that float behind the pillars for the hinges? Don't they get fused in the process? How do you adjust the doors?

                          -Richard

                          1967 NADA 109 IIa SW
                          1974 88 III

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                          • leafsprung
                            Overdrive
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 1008

                            #28
                            galvanizing

                            I adjust the doors in the normal method.

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                            • Terrys
                              Overdrive
                              • May 2007
                              • 1382

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Richard
                              how do you deal with the captive nuts that float behind the pillars for the hinges?
                              Throw them out and put new ones on. Like any other nut or bolt, is pennywise and pound foolish to re-use easily replaced fasteners.

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                              • jp-
                                5th Gear
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 981

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Richard
                                Ike, when you galvanize a bulkhead, how do you deal with the captive nuts that float behind the pillars for the hinges? Don't they get fused in the process? How do you adjust the doors?

                                -Richard
                                Ah, now that's a neat little trick. What I do is leave them in place and let them be galvanized. When it comes back, I drill and re-tap them. Then put a bolt in (leaving a good gap between the bulkhead) and give it a good hit with a hammer. This pops the floating piece loose from the bulkhead. Voila!
                                61 II 109" Pickup (Restomod, 350 small block, TR4050)
                                66 IIA 88" Station Wagon (sold)
                                66 IIA 109" Pickup (Restomod, 5MGE, R380)
                                67 IIA 109" NADA Wagon (sold)
                                88, 2.5TD 110 RHD non-hicap pickup

                                -I used to know everything there was to know about Land Rovers; then I joined the RN Bulletin Board.

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