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  • Jim-ME
    Overdrive
    • Oct 2006
    • 1379

    Engine Oil

    I changed my oil and filter yesterday to 10W30 as its starting to get cold. My sump would only take 6 qts before reading full to the H mark on the dipstick. From what I've read it should have taken 6.5 qts without the filter plus I've got an oil cooler as well. Is it possible that I've either got the wrong dipstick or that the dipstick tube slipped into the block so I'm getting a bad level? Thanks,
    Jim
  • LaneRover
    Overdrive
    • Oct 2006
    • 1743

    #2
    Unfortunately I can't even make an educated guess on the dipstick other than I guess that it is possible that something is amiss with the dipstick and or tube.

    Is there any chance that it takes longer for oil to drain out of the oil cooler so some oil was left in the system? Again this is a guess as none of my Rovers have an oil cooler.

    Brent

    I am sure someone has an actual educated reply!
    1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
    1965 109 SW - nearly running well
    1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
    1969 109 P-UP

    http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...2&l=64cfe23aa2

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    • Jim-ME
      Overdrive
      • Oct 2006
      • 1379

      #3
      Thanks Brent. I will admit that the oil cooler must hold some of the old oil as I haven't found a way to drain it other than disconnect the lines each oil change. I'll bet you're right.
      Jim

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      • scott
        Overdrive
        • Oct 2006
        • 1226

        #4
        math may say that that ain't it...2.25's hold 6.5 qrt, add an oil cooler they take a 6.5 + x where x = the capacity of the cooler, if the oil cooler doesn't drain and hangs on to x you should still be able to get the 6.5 in
        '64 Series IIA 88 Canvas Tilt
        '68 Series IIA RHD Ambulance
        '76 Spitfire 1500
        '07 LR3 (Series Recovery Vehicle)

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        • LaneRover
          Overdrive
          • Oct 2006
          • 1743

          #5
          Keep in mind that American and British Quarts are different. Though different in the wrong direction with the problem you are having. Unless of course you have specs in American units and you are filling with British units.

          Do you have another dipstick available to give it a quick try?

          Brent
          1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
          1965 109 SW - nearly running well
          1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
          1969 109 P-UP

          http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...2&l=64cfe23aa2

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          • Jim-ME
            Overdrive
            • Oct 2006
            • 1379

            #6
            No I don't

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            • daveb
              5th Gear
              • Nov 2006
              • 513

              #7
              compare dipsticks

              um, don't know how else to phrase this, but...

              someone else should measure their dipstick for comparison. Jim's may indeed be too short. But he only has one, so help out guys. Measure from the lower edge of the little cap at the top.

              No 2.25s here anymore otherwise I'd go first.

              good luck and godspeed

              Originally posted by Jim-ME
              No I don't
              A Land Rover would never turn up to collect an Oscar. It'd be far too busy doing something important, somewhere, for someone."


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              • LaneRover
                Overdrive
                • Oct 2006
                • 1743

                #8
                Is there anyone up near you? If you head to Southern Maine and you want to grab one to test with (while measuring and taking a look at the fuel filler on one of my tubs) and then send back to me then send me a private message and we can arrange either you stopping by or maybe my brother sending one up to you.

                Not sure if this will help but I just measured the dipstick on my 1965 109SW. I don't believe that the engine is original to the vehicle but it is a 2.25 liter. The dipstick from the bottom of the bell shaped piece that holds it in place to the bottom of the dipstick is 19 and 5/16 inches long. The dipstick tube is almost perfectly 12 inches from the engine block to its upper tip. (not from the top of the nut that it goes through but from the engine block itself).

                Let me know if you need to stop by or to have my brother send one up to you.

                Brent
                1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
                1965 109 SW - nearly running well
                1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
                1969 109 P-UP

                http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...2&l=64cfe23aa2

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                • junkyddog11
                  1st Gear
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 195

                  #9
                  sorry for the slight hyjack...

                  Brent, where is your brother in southern Maine....?

                  I'm in the Kittery, Eliot area

                  ..and Jim, I can't imagine that you could have a dipstick problem. More likely that all the oil did not drain in the first place. Did you run the motor for a couple min before checking the final level?
                  Matt Browne
                  www.overlandengineering.com
                  "resurecting junk through engineering"

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                  • LaneRover
                    Overdrive
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 1743

                    #10
                    My brother is in North Yarmouth, just down the street from another Rover enthusiast. I have some property in Old Orchard Beach where a couple of my Rovers sit.

                    Brent
                    1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
                    1965 109 SW - nearly running well
                    1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
                    1969 109 P-UP

                    http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...2&l=64cfe23aa2

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                    • junkyddog11
                      1st Gear
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 195

                      #11
                      Ahhh....so your the guy in OOB. Couple of my offspring live up there.
                      Matt Browne
                      www.overlandengineering.com
                      "resurecting junk through engineering"

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                      • Jim-ME
                        Overdrive
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 1379

                        #12
                        Based on info I've gotten from the Series 2 Club forum mine is not an uncommon problem with replaced engines. They told me to loosen the dipstick tube locknut and turn the tube out until I get the correct reading on the dipstick using the correct amount of oil and then tighten the locknut again. I'm going to give it a shot once I get a set of crowsfoot wrenches.

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                        • LaneRover
                          Overdrive
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 1743

                          #13
                          Good to know! Thanks for letting us know what you found out! Just remember to take into account how much the oil cooler holds.

                          Brent
                          1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
                          1965 109 SW - nearly running well
                          1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
                          1969 109 P-UP

                          http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...2&l=64cfe23aa2

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