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  • PH4
    3rd Gear
    • Jan 2007
    • 375

    Stuck top

    I have undone all the fastners along the windscreen and where the sides connect to the tub on my 109 3 door 1962. I have tried solo to see if I could just get top to show signs of moving but no such luck. Anyone have any tricks for raising top that will not damage it. I was thinking cumberlong(sp?) but really do not want to damage top. I am assuming that after who nows how many years the weatherstripping is not wanting to let go. Any suggestions or experience with this?
  • Terrys
    Overdrive
    • May 2007
    • 1382

    #2
    seven across the top of the winscreen, 4 on an 88 tub, forget how many on the 109 (HT & SWtop differ) I'll bet you're right about the old tub to side panel seal, probably seal on top of windscreen too.

    I'm sure you meant Comealong, as in "Come along,dear"; what I hear frequently, when I want to stop and stare at something I want, or, something I was young enough to remember what to do with.

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    • LaneRover
      Overdrive
      • Oct 2006
      • 1743

      #3
      Are there seat in the back? They can sometimes hide bolts that are just behind them - though to be honest I don't know if that is just in a Station wagon!

      Unless of course you are just trying to unbolt the very top and not the top with the sides.

      Good luck!

      Brent
      1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
      1965 109 SW - nearly running well
      1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
      1969 109 P-UP

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      • PH4
        3rd Gear
        • Jan 2007
        • 375

        #4
        Not a SW but a 109 regular. I am curious about the four bolts holding the sides. they have nuts on both the topside and the bottom. I just remove the top nuts leaving the bolt sticking up through the hole. I assume the top just lifts up and over these bolts.

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        • scott
          Overdrive
          • Oct 2006
          • 1226

          #5
          first let me say i don't know hard tops but it seems that if you think you removed all the bolts/nuts and if it's not giving at all anywhere than i'd suspect its stuck with maybe some thing the po used to seal. maybe you can start with one end of the windscreen and tap in a small screw driver or putty knife.
          '64 Series IIA 88 Canvas Tilt
          '68 Series IIA RHD Ambulance
          '76 Spitfire 1500
          '07 LR3 (Series Recovery Vehicle)

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          • jp-
            5th Gear
            • Oct 2006
            • 981

            #6
            Are you trying to take off the top and rear sides at the same time, or just the top itself?

            I would take the top off first and them the sides. The first thing to do is run your finger along the inside of the entire roof edge and make sure that you removed all the bolts. Once you're sure, push up gently at one corner until it breaks free. Work your way around the perimeter starting with the corner that broke free first.
            61 II 109" Pickup (Restomod, 350 small block, TR4050)
            66 IIA 88" Station Wagon (sold)
            66 IIA 109" Pickup (Restomod, 5MGE, R380)
            67 IIA 109" NADA Wagon (sold)
            88, 2.5TD 110 RHD non-hicap pickup

            -I used to know everything there was to know about Land Rovers; then I joined the RN Bulletin Board.

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            • I Leak Oil
              Overdrive
              • Nov 2006
              • 1796

              #7
              Mine also has one bolt on either side of the rear door opening.
              JasonT.
              Jason
              "Clubs are for Chumps" Club president

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              • Bostonian1976
                5th Gear
                • Nov 2006
                • 750

                #8
                mine has the two bolts on either side of the rear door as well.

                So that makes - 6 (?) along the windshield, 2 total behind driver and passenger side, 1 on each side of the rear door, and 1 on each of the rear corners.

                Mine comes up pretty easily - I can't imagine it being all that stuck unless the rubber seals have really gotten glued somehow...
                '67 sort of station wagon (limestone), '65 gray hardtop, '63 blue Station Wagon, '64 limestone station wagon in pieces

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                • siii8873
                  Overdrive
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 1013

                  #9
                  I have an 88" and ther are the windscreen bolts, the four on the corners on the back, two at back door (one each side) and one behind the rear seats mid span. When I removed mine originally it was a %^^%$#@ to get off. Try to get a stiff putty knife started somewhere and work your way around with a flat bar. The worse part on mine was the windscreen seal it was like it was glued down. I was little impatient and cracked one glass panel in the process. Wouldn't hesitate to use a razor knife either along the windsceen.
                  THING 1 - 1973 88 SIII - SOLD
                  THING 2 -1974 88 SIII Daily Driver - SOLD
                  THING 3 - 1969 88 SIIA Bugeye Project
                  THING 4 - 1971 109 SIIA ExMod - SOLD
                  THING 5 - 1958 109 PU
                  THING 6 - 1954 86" HT

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                  • PH4
                    3rd Gear
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 375

                    #10
                    Thanks for all the responses. It would take a deluge for the top to leak a drop so I suspect it is well adhered to the windscreen and sides. I am taking top and sides off as one unit. Plan to hit it with putty knife and tap of a hammer Saturday morning. In regards to bolts on side, I had two at rear door, two at rear corners, two at front corners, and four our six down the sides. 6 to 8 on windscreen.

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                    • daveb
                      5th Gear
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 513

                      #11
                      DO NOT REMOVE THE TOP ! You have the only non-leaking LR in the world...




                      dave

                      Originally posted by PH4
                      Thanks for all the responses. It would take a deluge for the top to leak a drop
                      A Land Rover would never turn up to collect an Oscar. It'd be far too busy doing something important, somewhere, for someone."


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                      • Jeff Aronson
                        Moderator
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 569

                        #12
                        I think everyone else has really caputured what you need to pay attention to; the hidden nuts are inside of the rear corner [one on each side of the door] and along the side panels behind the bench or seat. You need to remove the bottom nuts, at the retaining washers, in each of the corners.

                        Don't forget the windshield nuts that hold up the rear view mirror, too - I have!

                        The seals can really degrade in place and the 109" top is really heavy. It takes two people to remove an 88" top, 3 to lift and install it. If you're trying to move the top alone, it just may be too heavy for one person.

                        Jeff
                        Jeff Aronson
                        Vinalhaven, ME 04863
                        '66 Series II-A SW 88"
                        '66 Series II-A HT 88"
                        '80 Triumph TR-7 Spider
                        '80 Triumph Spitfire
                        '66 Corvair Monza Coupe
                        http://www.landroverwriter.com

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                        • PH4
                          3rd Gear
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 375

                          #13
                          I was able to remove it after using a hacksaw to cut the thin metal strips on each door that were underneath the weather stripping. I highly reccomend removing a 109 top with at least three people. In regards to leaks, in both my Rovers I never really get much, if any, leaks from rain. Also, no oil leaks. I believe I am tempting fate with this post but will see over time.

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