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  • O'Brien
    1st Gear
    • Oct 2007
    • 134

    bonnet differences?

    is there a difference between a deluxe dished bonnet from series IIA to series III, or are they identical? aside from the bolt to hinge pattern of course... thanks!
    Matt
    '66 88 GM powered
    '89 SWB RRC (sold)
    '67 109 NADA 6cyl. Station Wagon #2 (sold)
  • giorgio
    Low Range
    • Jan 2007
    • 74

    #2
    It is sort of hard to see in this picture, but front edge of a Series IIA is more "rolled over" looking that the Series III.
    Last edited by giorgio; 05-14-2008, 02:43 PM.

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    • TSR53
      5th Gear
      • Mar 2006
      • 733

      #3
      Originally posted by giorgio
      It is sort of hard to see in this picture, but front edge of a Series IIA is more "rolled over" looking that the Series III.
      Correct, the Deluxe Bonnets (dished and non-dished) are all rolled over looking as opposed to the regular bonnet. The only difference between series II, IIA and III is the type of hinge. All bonnets are interchangeable. Pics for ref.

      Regular Series II non-dished bonnet (ex-Jaguar factory grounds VIP go-kart )


      Deluxe dished bonnet (Bob Lowe's INCA Trail rallye 109)


      Cheers, Thompson
      Art & Creative Director, Rovers Magazine
      Rovers North, Inc.

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      • LaneRover
        Overdrive
        • Oct 2006
        • 1743

        #4
        Also as you can see in the last picture when the Deluxe bonnet has the mount for the tire the bonnet has a 'depression' built into it while on the regular bonnet there is no 'depression' for the tire to sit in.

        Brent
        1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
        1965 109 SW - nearly running well
        1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
        1969 109 P-UP

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        • O'Brien
          1st Gear
          • Oct 2007
          • 134

          #5
          thanks for the pics friends. I understand the differences between the standard bonnet and the deluxe and deluxe dished varients. I was mostly wondering if there is a specific difference between the deluxe dished bonnets fitted to IIA's and series III's. I'm looking to replace my seriously bent deluxe dished bonnet on my IIA and i have come upon some NOS deluxe dished series III bonnets. trying to find our if there is a difference. Thanks!
          Matt
          '66 88 GM powered
          '89 SWB RRC (sold)
          '67 109 NADA 6cyl. Station Wagon #2 (sold)

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          • Jeff Aronson
            Moderator
            • Oct 2006
            • 569

            #6
            I have looked at some period advertisements for Series III vehicles with the "deluxe" bonnet and really can't see any difference. I've never seen a Series III "deluxe" bonnet because the SW wasn't formally imported here in that model, just the unique NADA hardtop.

            Sorry I can't be more help than that.

            Jeff
            Jeff Aronson
            Vinalhaven, ME 04863
            '66 Series II-A SW 88"
            '66 Series II-A HT 88"
            '80 Triumph TR-7 Spider
            '80 Triumph Spitfire
            '66 Corvair Monza Coupe
            http://www.landroverwriter.com

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            • Leslie
              5th Gear
              • Oct 2006
              • 613

              #7
              The hinges are different; they bolt on, so you can swap them as need be.

              My III had a flat hood, and I switched it to the deluxe dished type.

              FWIW, I've seen deluxe bonnets w/o the dished out tyre mount, that were flat across there, too. Reason I went w/ a dished out versus the flat was so that I could gain that much extra visibility over the spare....
              -L

              '72 SIII SW 88"
              '60 SII 88" RHD

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              • O'Brien
                1st Gear
                • Oct 2007
                • 134

                #8
                jeff -

                thanks for chiming in. i haven't really been able to see a difference either. i've got a couple of options in replacing my trashed bonnet, i just want to make sure that whatever i end purchasing fits the way it's supposed to. if anyone else has any insight, i sure would appreciate it. thanks friends!
                Matt
                '66 88 GM powered
                '89 SWB RRC (sold)
                '67 109 NADA 6cyl. Station Wagon #2 (sold)

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                • O'Brien
                  1st Gear
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 134

                  #9
                  leslie -

                  you're right on that count. I don't think i could switch to something other than a dished bonnet. being 6' 3" i can barely see out the windscreen as it is!
                  Matt
                  '66 88 GM powered
                  '89 SWB RRC (sold)
                  '67 109 NADA 6cyl. Station Wagon #2 (sold)

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                  • sven
                    1st Gear
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 174

                    #10
                    On a topic of bonnets: Whats the biggest tire you can fit on the bonnet? I have 235/85/16, will that fit?
                    99 D1
                    73 Series III 88"
                    95 RRC LWB

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                    • S11A
                      2nd Gear
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 218

                      #11
                      One thing to consider on the dished bonnet - if you are running a larger-than-stock tire, it may not fit down into the dish and instead lie mostly on top of the surface of the bonnet. If the spare is larger than stock you may also need longer fixing bolts and to possibly reposition the rub bumpers (or whatever they are called).
                      1965 Series 2A 109 pickup diesel

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                      • giorgio
                        Low Range
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 74

                        #12
                        I quess I spoke too soon, and from a point of view that was not very broadly experienced. I did not know the difference between deluxe and standard, or that they were both available on all Series.

                        Thanks for broadening my knowledge base.

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                        • O'Brien
                          1st Gear
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 134

                          #13
                          no worries man! i've learned so much from this board and wonderful group of people, it's a great place to build up your knowledge of series rigs. i don't know where i would be without it!


                          Originally posted by giorgio
                          I quess I spoke too soon, and from a point of view that was not very broadly experienced. I did not know the difference between deluxe and standard, or that they were both available on all Series.

                          Thanks for broadening my knowledge base.
                          Matt
                          '66 88 GM powered
                          '89 SWB RRC (sold)
                          '67 109 NADA 6cyl. Station Wagon #2 (sold)

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                          • carl k
                            Low Range
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 50

                            #14
                            I believe the structure that holds the hood latch pin is different also. The early models have the pin attached to a plate that runs side to side and bolts to the bonnet stiffening ribs. The later models have the pin on a z-shaped bracket welded to the framework that forms the front of the bonnet. However the pin is in the same location for both styles, so they are interchangeable.

                            regards,
                            Carl K.

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                            • Jeff Aronson
                              Moderator
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 569

                              #15
                              Good point on the "deluxe" bonnet without the dish indent! I've seen them in contemporary ads also.

                              I run 16" 's and they fit in the dished "deluxe" bonnet. There's plenty of room to bolt down a wider tire, but not a larger diameter tire.

                              Jeff
                              Jeff Aronson
                              Vinalhaven, ME 04863
                              '66 Series II-A SW 88"
                              '66 Series II-A HT 88"
                              '80 Triumph TR-7 Spider
                              '80 Triumph Spitfire
                              '66 Corvair Monza Coupe
                              http://www.landroverwriter.com

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