Military Fuel Valve Location?

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  • S11A
    2nd Gear
    • Apr 2007
    • 218

    Military Fuel Valve Location?

    Hola, Does anyone have a picture or description of where this sort of valve would typically be mounted: http://www.roversnorth.com/store/arc..._17/page15.htm Would it make sense to mount it on the bulkhead, under the hand throttle? Or maybe on the seat box on the passenger side, close in to the tunnel cover? Thanks!
    1965 Series 2A 109 pickup diesel
  • S11A
    2nd Gear
    • Apr 2007
    • 218

    #2
    Also, does this kit (as sold by our hosts) address the issue of the fuel return line? Does the valve deal with return lines so the fuel is sent back to the tank from which it came? Or does it only return to a single tank (one that is hard-wired, as it were)?
    1965 Series 2A 109 pickup diesel

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    • PH4
      3rd Gear
      • Jan 2007
      • 375

      #3
      I have one original to my right hand 1962 109. It is on the bulkhead below the shelf. It is on left side between toe box and center of bulk head.

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      • Terrys
        Overdrive
        • May 2007
        • 1382

        #4
        The valve shown is for Petrol engines, and does not have any plumbing for return lines, such as a diesel would require. It incorporates two toggle switches for seleting the fuel sender from the appropriate tank.
        On a MOD 109, it is located on the lower bulkhead, right side,Immediately behind the engine's fuel pump.

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        • leafsprung
          Overdrive
          • Nov 2006
          • 1008

          #5
          they were mounted in different places on different trucks. They were a dealer option so they were mounted in various places on the seatbox and firewall.

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          • Moose
            2nd Gear
            • Oct 2006
            • 226

            #6
            The Ex-Mod 109's and Ltwt's I've seen with dual tanks have the switch over valves mounted on the seatbox, right hand side next to the tunnel cover. That is where I mounted mine. For the return line, you would need two valves to dump into the tank in use.

            Brett
            Series 3 88 Diesel Soft Top
            Ex-Mod 110 Tdi

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            • yorker
              Overdrive
              • Nov 2006
              • 1635

              #7
              I think on army IIa's it is on the bulkhead, on Series IIIs they seem to be on the seatbox.
              1965 SIIa 88",1975 Ex-MOD 109/Ambulance, 1989 RRC, blah, blah, blah...

              Land Rover UK Forums

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              • leafsprung
                Overdrive
                • Nov 2006
                • 1008

                #8
                valve

                Ive had SIIAs and SIIIs with them in both locations.

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                • scott
                  Overdrive
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 1226

                  #9
                  i installed mine without asking where. i mounted it on the blank that covers the right side hand brake openning. did this so as not to make any new holes in the seat box or bulkhead.
                  '64 Series IIA 88 Canvas Tilt
                  '68 Series IIA RHD Ambulance
                  '76 Spitfire 1500
                  '07 LR3 (Series Recovery Vehicle)

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                  • S11A
                    2nd Gear
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 218

                    #10
                    Thanks for the advice. Mine has two instruction plates on the bulkhead below the dash, on the right hand side. I think I will mount the valve next to these, on the left.
                    1965 Series 2A 109 pickup diesel

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                    • S11A
                      2nd Gear
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 218

                      #11
                      So for a diesel, I can think of a few options for the fuel return line:

                      1. Plumb the return line to a single tank, the one that would normally be used first

                      2. Plumb the return line so it has a T or Y in it so the fuel is returned to both tanks, somewhat evenly

                      3. Add an additional valve so that the fuel is returned to the same tank from which it was drawn

                      I would think option 3 would probably be ideal, if a person wanted two of those valves on the bulkhead or seat box. You might even be able to gang them together...

                      I would think option 1 would be the next best and still perfectly fine. It would have the benefit of being simple to plumb and less parts to go wrong. However, it would have the drawback that after emptying the first tank and switching to the second, you would have all of the fuel returned to the first and therefore might need to switch back to that tank again if you were running on fumes. That might not be such a big deal to simply turn the valve back to the first tank.

                      I am not sure option 2 is viable, since the T'ed return line might possibly overflow the tank that has not been drained yet. This situation would depend on the amount of fuel that is returned to the tanks.

                      Any thoughts?

                      Thanks in advance!
                      1965 Series 2A 109 pickup diesel

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                      • S11A
                        2nd Gear
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 218

                        #12
                        Bump. Figured I would give it one last shot to see if anyone had any thoughts on one of these options for the fuel return line being any better or worse. I am leaning toward number 1.

                        I am also considering adding two standalone fuel gauges instead of the single stock one, even though the Rovers North kit switches the gauge in addition to the supply.

                        In that case, I may replace the stock gauge (the entire second large one besides the speedometer) with an appropriately sized Smiths tach, since I am probably going to get a different ammeter with more capacity too. I will open up a separate thread if I end up doing that.
                        1965 Series 2A 109 pickup diesel

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