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  • Tim Smith
    Overdrive
    • Nov 2006
    • 1504

    #31
    Originally posted by Jason T.
    Just came back from winter romp...
    Same here. About 6 - 6.5 hours for me.

    What I couldn't understand was that in Maine (both directions) I had to hold the truck pretty much to the metal to keep 55 - 60. But once I got back into Mass and CT, I could drop back to maybe 1/2 throttle and hold 65 - 70 and at times had it up to 75 to pass some traffic on the down hills.

    What I don't get is that I couldn't keep up my speed the further north I got. I thought cold air was supposed to help facilitate an efficient burn... Could it be that the colder air is denser and creating more drag on the truck?

    Did you notice the same thing Jason? Any one else?

    By the way, my current 2.25 is pretty stock other than the NRP exhaust, weber 34ICH with a brandy new K&N filter on an 8.1 head. Everything else is as it should be from Solihull. I'm also riding on 33" tires so my real speed was probably higher than the speedo was telling me. In case any one is wondering for comparison purposes.

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    • TeriAnn
      Overdrive
      • Nov 2006
      • 1087

      #32
      Originally posted by Paul Rossmann
      I know I will get a lot of grief for saying this, but who in their right mind would want to go over 70 in a Series? A Defender, yes, but a 35 yr old leaf sprung?
      Funny now that mention it most of my freeway cruising is done around 60 MPH think mostly out of habit and to help keep fuel consumption down.

      But I do know for a fact that Series can be quite stable around 75 & 80 MPH with tight steering connections, balanced tyres and a proper alignment to withing factory specs. My Land Rover used to get a little shaky much above 60 MPH until I had the front end properly aligned to within factory specs.

      Originally posted by Paul Rossmann
      I would think that a rebuilt 2.25 (HP) and a rebuilt tranny with the high ratio transfer case would be as much engine as you would need
      Does your vehicle have that combination? For high range, the ratio at the axle with a high ratio kit is very close to a 3.54 R&P and significantly higher than driving around in overdrive all the time. It is my belief that high ratio transfercases are fine for folks with a significantly more powerful than stock engine and OK for folks who have a "performance" 2.25 engine in a topless 88 and lives on the flats near sea level.

      My 109 is powered by a Ford 302 and I love my Ashcroft high ratio kit. But you need the power to push the gears.


      Originally posted by Paul Rossmann
      A 200tdi would be nice if you could find one, then find the parts. Even then it is almost too much power for a Series, and unless you go non-turbo, will require extensive mods and cooling system revisions to install.
      I assume by "almost too much power for a Series" you were referring to the gearbox and not the entire vehicle. If yes, I would like to mention that the 200tdi/series gearbox is a common combination and people who are running this combination seem to think that the box can handle the engine. If you are referring to the 10 spline Rover rear axles, the 8:1 2.25L engine in stock form is already too powerful for the axles.

      But anyway the 200dti into Series swap is very common in the UK and the conversion is well documented. It is a comparatively simple swap but it does require some fabrication, especially with new radiator mounts & exhaust routing.
      -

      Teriann Wakeman_________
      Flagstaff, AZ.




      1960 Land Rover Dormobile, owned since 1978

      My Land Rover web site

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      • Saxondog
        Low Range
        • Jan 2008
        • 27

        #33
        Ditto on all the above more power arguments

        Also a responsive gas pedal can be a just as effective safety device as a good set of brakes!!
        78 RHD 109 12 Passenger Wagon

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        • Tim Smith
          Overdrive
          • Nov 2006
          • 1504

          #34
          Originally posted by Saxondog
          Also a responsive gas pedal can be a just as effective safety device as a good set of brakes!!
          Especially if you are the Bandit and Smokey is on your tail...
          Last edited by Tim Smith; 02-19-2008, 12:38 PM.

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          • yorker
            Overdrive
            • Nov 2006
            • 1635

            #35
            Originally posted by Jason T.
            I'm seriously thinking of a GM 4.3 liter with the SM465 that I have sitting in my garage. Just need to find a way to adapt it to my series transfer case....
            Jason T.
            It has been done before- ask Ike. I wouldn't mind a SM465 to Series T case adapter either.
            1965 SIIa 88",1975 Ex-MOD 109/Ambulance, 1989 RRC, blah, blah, blah...

            Land Rover UK Forums

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            • O'Brien
              1st Gear
              • Oct 2007
              • 134

              #36
              here's another link to an engine swap. I can't read the german, but i think the pictures will explain A LOT about it. might not be the direction anyone here wants to go in however...

              Matt
              '66 88 GM powered
              '89 SWB RRC (sold)
              '67 109 NADA 6cyl. Station Wagon #2 (sold)

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              • LaneRover
                Overdrive
                • Oct 2006
                • 1743

                #37
                If you go fast enough it won't high center on anything!
                1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
                1965 109 SW - nearly running well
                1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
                1969 109 P-UP

                http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...2&l=64cfe23aa2

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                • groundhog
                  Low Range
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 18

                  #38
                  What about the 3.0 4 cyl GM engine swap, anybody have any experience or specs on it?
                  Bruce

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                  • Tim Smith
                    Overdrive
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 1504

                    #39
                    Originally posted by LaneRover
                    If you go fast enough it won't high center on anything!
                    True but then you risk high siding your truck.

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                    • JFX
                      Low Range
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 5

                      #40
                      Hello Everyone,

                      My name is John, and I've been a lurker for a while now.

                      I researched the diesel options, looked and searched some more. I came across this last week. No affliation whatsoever.

                      www.roverpartsused.com


                      They have a 2.8 diesel. Not sure if it is the one that ECR used to use or not.


                      I am currently looking at a '68 88 (although I really would like a 109). Is this a viable engine option?

                      Thanks,

                      John

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                      • Jim-ME
                        Overdrive
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 1379

                        #41
                        Does anyone know anything about the folks in Montana either good or bad?
                        Jim

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                        • JFX
                          Low Range
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 5

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Jim-ME
                          Does anyone know anything about the folks in Montana either good or bad?
                          Jim
                          I was going to ask that question, but I didn't want to offend anyone.


                          -John

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                          • O'Brien
                            1st Gear
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 134

                            #43
                            that's creed evans right?

                            everything i've read says to run, run away now. FWIW i have never dealt with the person, and I am not trying to spread bad info around. but it wasn't hard to use google at all.





                            Ripoff Report on: Blue Sky Rover - Blue sky rover ripoff rude mean and very un business like great falls montana
                            Matt
                            '66 88 GM powered
                            '89 SWB RRC (sold)
                            '67 109 NADA 6cyl. Station Wagon #2 (sold)

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                            • JFX
                              Low Range
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 5

                              #44
                              Ah, I see......what a shame. Thanks for the information.


                              I would like to find out more about those engines though.


                              -John

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                              • Eric W S
                                5th Gear
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 609

                                #45
                                It's International's 2.8 engine. Derived from Land Rover's 300tdi and built in Brazil. Google it. ECR had a page on their site about it as well. And they have a page where they put the original Land Rover 300tdi into a Series III.

                                Good reading


                                Also a good site.


                                It's not cheap at all. The M&D Defender kit is around $11k USD without shipping from the UK. You can buy a really nice truck for that amount or the Chevy v-8 and transmission of your choice as well.

                                EwS
                                Last edited by Eric W S; 02-20-2008, 03:12 PM.

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