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  • Mercedesrover
    3rd Gear
    • Oct 2006
    • 343

    109 Exhaust

    Does anyone have a picture or a diagram of the exhaust system on a 109 wagon? I've got to fabricate the system on my truck and would like to see about how it goes originally.

    Thanks!

    Jim
    www.seriestrek.com
  • S11A
    2nd Gear
    • Apr 2007
    • 218

    #2
    Jim,

    I know this is an 88, but this image gives a decent general picture:

    cut-away

    The pics here might be helpful:

    1965 Series 2A 109 pickup diesel

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    • leafsprung
      Overdrive
      • Nov 2006
      • 1008

      #3
      are you going to use a muffler?

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      • Mercedesrover
        3rd Gear
        • Oct 2006
        • 343

        #4
        Originally posted by leafsprung
        are you going to use a muffler?
        I don't think so. I think with the turbo it'll be quiet enough without one. 2.5" straight pipe. Stainless from McMaster Carr. If it's too loud, at most I'll put on a little stainless can I have here off a Honda or something. It's small and straight thru.
        www.seriestrek.com

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        • S11A
          2nd Gear
          • Apr 2007
          • 218

          #5
          This one is from a 200TDI conversion, but there is a good pic at the bottom of the page of an exhaust fully assembled:



          I have some pics from my non-SW 109; send me your email address and I can email them to you.
          1965 Series 2A 109 pickup diesel

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          • Mercedesrover
            3rd Gear
            • Oct 2006
            • 343

            #6
            Thanks.
            Last edited by Mercedesrover; 03-07-2008, 12:36 PM.
            www.seriestrek.com

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            • S11A
              2nd Gear
              • Apr 2007
              • 218

              #7
              Jim,

              I will send this morning.

              You may want to delete your email, as the spammers have 'bots that troll for email addresses and add them to spam lists.
              1965 Series 2A 109 pickup diesel

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              • TeriAnn
                Overdrive
                • Nov 2006
                • 1087

                #8
                Originally posted by Mercedesrover
                I don't think so. I think with the turbo it'll be quiet enough without one. 2.5" straight pipe. Stainless from McMaster Carr. If it's too loud, at most I'll put on a little stainless can I have here off a Honda or something. It's small and straight thru.
                The stock 109 station wagon exhaust runs along the left side hugging the frame with an inverted U over the rear axle then a left turn to exhaust out the side behind the left rear tyre. If memory serves the muffler sits where the U rises just before the rear axle.

                The 617's exhaust is on the right side so it would make more sense to ignore what the factory did and run it down the right. The 109 regular runs down the left (All the in lines engines exhaust on the left side), makes a right turn behind the rear axle, has the muffler where the rear tank sits and exhausts to the right side behind the rear tyre. So it you run it down the right side it would exhaust in the stock 109 regular location.
                -

                Teriann Wakeman_________
                Flagstaff, AZ.




                1960 Land Rover Dormobile, owned since 1978

                My Land Rover web site

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                • Mercedesrover
                  3rd Gear
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 343

                  #9
                  I'm not trying to mimic the factory exhaust at all. (The factory anything for that matter!) I was just trying to see how they worked out running the tailpipe behind the rear wheel with the rear fuel tank right there. I'm going to have to buy and mount the tank before I work that out. May end up running it out in front of the rear wheel, though I'd rather not 'cause it's a wagon.
                  www.seriestrek.com

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                  • yorker
                    Overdrive
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 1635

                    #10
                    Jim are you just going to use the rear tank or the under seat ones as well? Man! what a range that would be...
                    1965 SIIa 88",1975 Ex-MOD 109/Ambulance, 1989 RRC, blah, blah, blah...

                    Land Rover UK Forums

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                    • Mercedesrover
                      3rd Gear
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 343

                      #11
                      Well see. No plans yet. Might be fun to put a tank on the right side and run veggie oil in it!
                      www.seriestrek.com

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                      • yorker
                        Overdrive
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 1635

                        #12
                        Yeah that was pretty much what I was thinking! Once everythign was all warmed up you could swap over to the Veggie oil or whatever you happen to want to run int he front tanks.

                        and if you do achieve ~25 mpg @ 70 mph you'd have a range of what? ~1,050 miles hehe! 15 hours worth of fuel... That is a long time to go without peeing.


                        You'd never need to even look at a jerry can again...
                        1965 SIIa 88",1975 Ex-MOD 109/Ambulance, 1989 RRC, blah, blah, blah...

                        Land Rover UK Forums

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                        • S11A
                          2nd Gear
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 218

                          #13


                          Or: a new use for the jerry can
                          1965 Series 2A 109 pickup diesel

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                          • Richard
                            Low Range
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 25

                            #14
                            Hey Jim,

                            OK, second attempt.
                            Here are a few pictures of the stock exhaust on my 2.6L 109 SW.




                            -Richard
                            Last edited by Richard; 03-10-2008, 12:11 AM.

                            1967 NADA 109 IIa SW
                            1974 88 III

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                            • Tim Smith
                              Overdrive
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 1504

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Mercedesrover
                              I don't think so. I think with the turbo it'll be quiet enough without one. 2.5" straight pipe. Stainless from McMaster Carr. If it's too loud, at most I'll put on a little stainless can I have here off a Honda or something. It's small and straight thru.
                              Hey Jim,
                              About the muffler. I had a 300d "the Beirut taxi" up until recently with the 617 in it. After it was rear ended (and I still kept driving it to the chagrin of my friends and co-workers) the muffler soon fell off.

                              I gotta say that with the turbo and spark arrester still on the system, it really wasn't all that loud. In fact, it was actually quite livable for short runs and gave the motor a nice throatier sound on hard acceleration. I also believed that it gave me an extra 2 horse at the wheels but you can decide for yourself.

                              On longer highway runs it would get annoying, especially with the exhaust fumes leaking into the cabin through the then mashed in body work of the back end. But thats another story and a situation I'm sure you will avoid.

                              By the way, I now have one of your adapters and am keeping an eye out for another 617 in better nick. That afore mentioned car had a little over a quarter million miles on the clock. Even though it wasn't taken care of very well, the motor started up first time every time. Only twice did it get too cold for immediate start up. The rest of the car was another story.


                              <I wonder if that rope is still holding the transmission up in place>

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