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  • SafeAirOne
    Overdrive
    • Apr 2008
    • 3435

    Wheel Spacers for Series Rovers

    Today I got my 109 back on the road after a year-and-a-half (or two) bulkhead rebuild. I've been driving around a Nissan Sentra in the mean time, so I forgot that the Rover was as maneuverable as an ocean-going oil tanker. It took 2 tries to get her into my 1-lane driveway because I didn't begin the turn the requisite quarter-mile wide and a quarter-mile early.

    Anyhow, I've often wondered if the aluminum wheel spacers our hosts advertise are compatible with the series trucks. I always seen them listed as Discovery-compatible, but never a mention of Series-compatibility. The NATO steel wheels I use fit both Vehicles, so I figure the spacers should work as well. Am I wrong?

    If they are compatible, what will the consequences of using wheel spacers be on a Series Rover? I THINK that the wheel bearings and hubs should be able to take the extra load, but this is strictly a WAG.
    --Mark

    1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

    0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
    (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).
  • wooday
    Low Range
    • Dec 2007
    • 51

    #2
    I'm interested in doing the same thing Mark - did you ever get a reply?
    Or did you try it?
    .

    1975 Series III 88" - SOLD
    1990 RRC SWB
    1994 D90 ST
    2001 Porsche Boxster S

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    • TSR53
      5th Gear
      • Mar 2006
      • 733

      #3
      Our wheel spacers are listed for the Series III.




      note: earlier Series vehicles can be adapted to allow wheel spacers, I'll have Les chime in to confirm what is involved to fit.
      Cheers, Thompson
      Art & Creative Director, Rovers Magazine
      Rovers North, Inc.

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      • SafeAirOne
        Overdrive
        • Apr 2008
        • 3435

        #4
        Originally posted by wooday
        I'm interested in doing the same thing Mark - did you ever get a reply?
        Or did you try it?
        No--After using the NATO steel rims for a while, I think my track width is where I want it to be.

        By coincidence, last night I was looking for a price on a SIII steering wheel on the RN website and came across the wheel spacers--The description of the spacers has changed and indicates that it might work on series trucks, just like Thompson has indicated. I'm still curious, though.

        Edit: After re-reading Thompson's post, I'm getting the impression that the spacers WILL work on a Series III and may work, with modification, on Series IIA & II (presumably due to wheel stud size issues??). Is this right?
        --Mark

        1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

        0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
        (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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        • 109 Pretender
          1st Gear
          • Oct 2008
          • 110

          #5
          Safe,
          I am using spacers on my 109 - wheel bearings are vlarge because of the full floater axles/stub flange setup. I used to worry about spacers and thought they were the 'cheap' way to increase track - and they are! I once had a pristine Porsche 930. Porsche used 3" spacers on the rear axles for the turbo/wide body carrera's. Those wheel bearings were nowhere as big as the Rover ones - so now I don't worry at all. The spacers will probably be set for the 14mm wheel studs - mine were. If you have the early 15/16 lug nuts like I had, use old nuts to affix the spacer to hub - then new lug nuts will be the 1 1/16 nut size. This mod allows a much tighter turning circle on the 109.
          cheers!

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          • Les Parker
            RN Sales Team - Super Moderator
            • May 2006
            • 2020

            #6
            I tried these spacers on the Air Portable and was not content with the result.
            The spacer did not appear to sit fully on the hub, causing me concern.
            Went with Discovery I steel wheels (7J X 16) which looks better (in my opinion) and gives just as wide a stance and I feel safer.

            2p
            Les Parker
            Tech. Support and Parts Specialist
            Rovers North Inc.

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            • Leslie
              5th Gear
              • Oct 2006
              • 613

              #7
              Les,

              Are the hubs on the Lightweight identical to normal SIII hubs?


              I've got the Disco steel wheels on my Series, which I'm fully happy w/, but the wheel's thicker, to the point that no lug extends beyond the lug nut... it's close to flush w/ the end of the threads on the nut, but just a bit to the inside of, such that you can see just a bit of the thread of the inside of the nut crowning above the end of the lug.


              I thought about ordering a set of lugs, if I could find some a little longer, and swapping them. I don't think it's *needed*, but, had crossed my mind. But, I had also considered a spacer set as such, hoping that it's lugs might be a bit longer, so I would prevent any problem, and perhaps help the turning radius a hair more...... but, I really don't want to come out, what, 30mm is 1.18 inches..... a 10, 15, or 20mm spacer is all that I would want, no more than..... and I've never seen one that's less than your 30mm.....
              -L

              '72 SIII SW 88"
              '60 SII 88" RHD

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              • Les Parker
                RN Sales Team - Super Moderator
                • May 2006
                • 2020

                #8
                Leslie,

                Mine has the later hubs, though I think the face of them is the same, as are the wheels studs. There's enough thread inside the wheel nut not to cause me concern, its only indented by 1 thread, so there's less to get (c)rusty and make removal (due to built up metal to air to road dirt) more difficult.
                Les Parker
                Tech. Support and Parts Specialist
                Rovers North Inc.

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                • Terrys
                  Overdrive
                  • May 2007
                  • 1382

                  #9
                  Wheel spacers are only going to decrease your turning radius IF, by moving them out further, you are allowed to turn the wheels further towards the frame (and away on the opposite side). The limiting factor becomes whether the steering gearbox will crank them further, without rubbing. Some Landies have stops, others do not. My 109 has no stops, and the furthest travel of the wheel, lock to lock, doesn't cause the tires (235x85) to approach rubbing the frame; it's limited by the fullest travel of the steering gear.

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                  • SafeAirOne
                    Overdrive
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 3435

                    #10
                    Originally posted by 109 Pretender
                    Safe,
                    I am using spacers on my 109
                    That's funny--When you first posted pics of your rover, I noticed that the rear wheel/hub looked strange---Somehow the hub looked rover but didn't stick out enough. I meant to ask you about what axle you are using, but got distracted and never asked. I'm easliy distra.......
                    --Mark

                    1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

                    0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
                    (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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                    • wooday
                      Low Range
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 51

                      #11
                      Is there any risk that the Series III wheel studs may not be able to handle the added stress from a 30mm wheel spacer?
                      .

                      1975 Series III 88" - SOLD
                      1990 RRC SWB
                      1994 D90 ST
                      2001 Porsche Boxster S

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                      • CliftonRover
                        3rd Gear
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 351

                        #12
                        the series wheel studs are more than strong enough.

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                        • mrdoiron
                          4th Gear
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 446

                          #13
                          wheel spacer options

                          Originally posted by CliftonRover
                          the series wheel studs are more than strong enough.
                          The spacers listed on the RN site seem expensive at $429... wondering if anyone saw cheaper / compatible options anywhere ?

                          thx
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                          1988 LR90 turbo diesel RHD - currently frame off rebuild in progress
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