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  • autoguy
    2nd Gear
    • Oct 2007
    • 220

    gas tank ? are these normal ? w/pict

    well my passenger side gas tank on ludwig is leaking, i have tried jb welding the things in the picture and i have done the seams too but to no luck

    so are these normal ? there are probably half a dozen or more on the bottom of both tanks and that is where the tank is leaking from, the pict is of the drivers side tank with no jb weld

    the drivers side tank is almost full of stale funk gas

    i had thought of using the por 15 tank sealer treatment kit but at $70, i can buy a plastic fuel cell and mount it in the tub for $100 and i know it will last longer than a tank sealer

  • greenmeanie
    Overdrive
    • Oct 2006
    • 1358

    #2
    If you're talking about the hole in the skid plate then it is normal. No amount of JB weld on the outside of a tank will seal it on these tanks with a double skin. You have to either seal it from the inside or replace it.

    For what its worth you might want to check your local DOT rules if you have to get inspection. Some places get mighty finicky about things like fuel cell placement etc. In AZ I could probably get aaway with having a passenger ride the front bumper and pour fuel down the carb from a glass jar but that's another matter.

    Cheers
    Gregor

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    • autoguy
      2nd Gear
      • Oct 2007
      • 220

      #3
      thanks for the quick reply

      any ideas of what to use to seal the tank from the inside ?

      thanks for the tip about checking to see if a fuel cell will pass inspection

      the cheapest replacement tank I found that would fit under the seat was around $250 or $300 aka way out of my price range

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      • Moose
        2nd Gear
        • Oct 2006
        • 226

        #4
        You could remove the tank and take it to a place like Gas Tank Renu. They will clean and then coat the outside. They can also coat the inside. I have had both the tanks from the 88 done there. One in 1996 and the other in 1998. No leaks since. They claim I have a life time warranty on them too!

        Cost $120.00 per tank at the time.

        Brett
        Series 3 88 Diesel Soft Top
        Ex-Mod 110 Tdi

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        • xsbowes
          2nd Gear
          • Dec 2006
          • 258

          #5
          Did you check with Bill at TNTLR.COM? He's not that far from KC, shipping shouldn't be too much. I got my tank from Brit. Pacific for $189. It was the replacement style but easy to install except for the fact that I was missing the front outrigger for the tank. PO had rigged the old tank to bolt to the floor and seat base. I didn't even realize this until I went to replace the tank.
          Stacy
          Motta S.A. Italy

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          • autoguy
            2nd Gear
            • Oct 2007
            • 220

            #6
            moose, thanks for the info

            xsbowes, was the tank you got from bp the auxilary tank ? I will call tntlr on Monday, thanks

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            • Eric W S
              5th Gear
              • Dec 2006
              • 609

              #7
              Is this your second tank? You mentioned an under seat option.

              I just bought a main tank for under 225 shipped. It was the new replica of the OEM tank not the newer version.

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              • xsbowes
                2nd Gear
                • Dec 2006
                • 258

                #8
                No it was the after market replacement. the part number is 552175. Passenger side on a LHD.
                Stacy
                Motta S.A. Italy

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                • autoguy
                  2nd Gear
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 220

                  #9
                  eric w s, Ludwig is ex military so he has dual under seat tanks

                  esbowes, so why did you do about the filler spigot ? thanks for the part #

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                  • xsbowes
                    2nd Gear
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 258

                    #10
                    That tank was on a civy model that I sold last year. For an ExMod you'd need the under seat tank which is more expensive. $279. PN TK101
                    Or install civy tank and filler tubes, etc.
                    Stacy
                    Motta S.A. Italy

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                    • autoguy
                      2nd Gear
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 220

                      #11
                      Originally posted by xsbowes
                      That tank was on a civy model that I sold last year. For an ExMod you'd need the under seat tank which is more expensive. $279. PN TK101
                      Or install civy tank and filler tubes, etc.
                      thanks, i figured it was the civy tank at that price

                      i might try to reseal the tank, i might try the por 15 tank sealer stuff, i will call them and ask how many gallons there sealer kit will work for, so far that seems to be the cheapest option

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                      • greenmeanie
                        Overdrive
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 1358

                        #12
                        If you go the POR-15 route just buy the tank sealer kit. It only works if you use all the potions in the manner they describe. The pot of sealer goop will be more than enough for your MOD underseat tank. I just did a SW rear tank and after coating, and leaving a thick coat on the bottom I was able to drain about a third of the stuff back into the can.

                        An alternative is to taske it to a radiator shop and have them seal it. That has the convenience that they will do all the hard work boiling it out to get it clean.

                        Cheers
                        Gregor

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                        • autoguy
                          2nd Gear
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 220

                          #13
                          Originally posted by greenmeanie
                          If you go the POR-15 route just buy the tank sealer kit. It only works if you use all the potions in the manner they describe. The pot of sealer goop will be more than enough for your MOD underseat tank. I just did a SW rear tank and after coating, and leaving a thick coat on the bottom I was able to drain about a third of the stuff back into the can.

                          An alternative is to taske it to a radiator shop and have them seal it. That has the convenience that they will do all the hard work boiling it out to get it clean.

                          Cheers
                          Gregor
                          thanks, I was looking for some info/rewiew of there product

                          did there product work ? aka is it worth the $70 and would the one kit work for both tanks ?

                          would it be cheaper to go to the rad shop ?

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                          • I Leak Oil
                            Overdrive
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 1796

                            #14
                            My opinion, and that's all it is, is that these tank sealers are for normal road vehicles. In an off-road vehicle, especially a series with the tank under the seat and hanging low, you don't want a structurally unsound fuel tank. If it's leaking it means it's rusted pretty well through and series tanks are thin to begin with. Hit it on something and it's likely to rupture again. For a few extra bucks get a new tank and some piece of mind.
                            Jason T.
                            Jason
                            "Clubs are for Chumps" Club president

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                            • Eric W S
                              5th Gear
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 609

                              #15
                              Ex Mod. Got it.

                              I gotta agree with Jason on this one. Spending 70 today just to spend 250 for a new tank down the road isn't really saving money.

                              EwS

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