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  • rovers2a
    Low Range
    • Sep 2008
    • 51

    #16
    the pen is pointing to the drive flange

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    • KSMTAW
      Low Range
      • Dec 2006
      • 93

      #17
      Thanks

      The picture you sent helps. It clearly shows the drive shaft U-joint flange bolted to the drive flange that replaces the starter dog. I was not sure if the bolts extended through the pully- but your picture cleared that up. Thanks.

      Now I just need a flange, bolt and washer. I will contact a few local machine shops to see how much it would cost to have a drive flange made. I hope it is not too expensive.

      Don't laugh too loud, but does anybody have an extra flange, nut and washer they want to sell or trade?

      Thanks for all the help. I hope I can get this winch up and going. It will look great on the 1965 IIA 88"

      Thanks-
      Todd
      Todd
      66 IIA 88"
      93 Porsche 968 variocam 6spd
      50 Ford 8N

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      • jp-
        5th Gear
        • Oct 2006
        • 981

        #18
        Todd, I would be interested to hear what they would charge you to make it. If it's over $80, I'll make it for you for less. I have access to a full machine shop. Can't make the center bolt though, without some details on it.
        61 II 109" Pickup (Restomod, 350 small block, TR4050)
        66 IIA 88" Station Wagon (sold)
        66 IIA 109" Pickup (Restomod, 5MGE, R380)
        67 IIA 109" NADA Wagon (sold)
        88, 2.5TD 110 RHD non-hicap pickup

        -I used to know everything there was to know about Land Rovers; then I joined the RN Bulletin Board.

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        • Rineheitzgabot
          4th Gear
          • Jun 2008
          • 386

          #19
          I'll bet it will be more than $80.

          For machine shops, it's all in the set-up cost. If you are buying only one, it is almost as much as if you buy five.

          Good luck Todd!
          "I can't believe I'm sitting here, completely surrounded by no beer!" -Onslow

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          • jp-
            5th Gear
            • Oct 2006
            • 981

            #20
            There is one dimension missing on the print, that I need, and that is the width of the two tabs on top of the flange.
            61 II 109" Pickup (Restomod, 350 small block, TR4050)
            66 IIA 88" Station Wagon (sold)
            66 IIA 109" Pickup (Restomod, 5MGE, R380)
            67 IIA 109" NADA Wagon (sold)
            88, 2.5TD 110 RHD non-hicap pickup

            -I used to know everything there was to know about Land Rovers; then I joined the RN Bulletin Board.

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            • TJR
              2nd Gear
              • Dec 2006
              • 279

              #21
              Nice winch Todd.. I'm in Southern maine too (Acton), but my Koenig is the T/C model... Now. I kinnda which I had the crank driven model.

              I know someone at work who's Dad has a complete setup like yours and they live in Farmignton NH. I can ask if they can help you out..

              .. Talbot

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              • KSMTAW
                Low Range
                • Dec 2006
                • 93

                #22
                Good morning JP-
                Thanks for the offer. I might just have to take you up on your offer. I will try to get a dimension on the tabs and a few local estimates from machine shops. I will try to get in tocuh with you if I need your help.

                Have a good day.
                Todd
                Todd
                66 IIA 88"
                93 Porsche 968 variocam 6spd
                50 Ford 8N

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                • KSMTAW
                  Low Range
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 93

                  #23
                  Hello Talbot-

                  I would love to take a look at the set-up in Farmignton. I could at least get the dimensions of the tabs on the drive flange I need. Le tme know if you want me to send you my phone number or something. What ever is easier.

                  I live in lebanon and work at the shipyard in portsmouth. I could shoot over to farmington any day pretty easy.

                  Thanks-
                  Todd
                  Todd
                  66 IIA 88"
                  93 Porsche 968 variocam 6spd
                  50 Ford 8N

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                  • jp-
                    5th Gear
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 981

                    #24
                    I decided to go ahead and make it, just for the hell of it. Almost done, except for making the tabs, and drilling/tapping the holes. I did notice that the print calls for tapped holes, but in the photo that was posted, there are nuts on the opposite side of the bolts.

                    Three things, (1.) Can I reduce the .640" dimension to .600"? I think this will add a little more meat to the mounting. (2.) Do you want tapped holes, as in the print, or just plain through holes? (3.) I still need the tab width.



                    (4140 Steel)
                    61 II 109" Pickup (Restomod, 350 small block, TR4050)
                    66 IIA 88" Station Wagon (sold)
                    66 IIA 109" Pickup (Restomod, 5MGE, R380)
                    67 IIA 109" NADA Wagon (sold)
                    88, 2.5TD 110 RHD non-hicap pickup

                    -I used to know everything there was to know about Land Rovers; then I joined the RN Bulletin Board.

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                    • jp-
                      5th Gear
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 981

                      #25
                      Can anyone get that tab width for me?
                      61 II 109" Pickup (Restomod, 350 small block, TR4050)
                      66 IIA 88" Station Wagon (sold)
                      66 IIA 109" Pickup (Restomod, 5MGE, R380)
                      67 IIA 109" NADA Wagon (sold)
                      88, 2.5TD 110 RHD non-hicap pickup

                      -I used to know everything there was to know about Land Rovers; then I joined the RN Bulletin Board.

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                      • KSMTAW
                        Low Range
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 93

                        #26
                        Thanks!

                        Thanks JP.

                        I did not get back to you sooner because I was in San Diego on business last week.

                        I am waiting to hear from a person here in Maine with the same set up. I hope to be able to meet them somewhere and take an actual measurement.

                        But- I am not sure the width of those tabs is that critical. It looks to me that all they do is keep the flange off of the pully. Just enought to allow the nuts to attach on the back side.

                        Thanks again- I will contiunue to try to get the tab widths.

                        You will need to send me your address and how much you want for it. I was looking at the winch yesterday and can't wait to get it on the truck.

                        Thanks !
                        Todd
                        66 IIA 88"
                        93 Porsche 968 variocam 6spd
                        50 Ford 8N

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                        • jp-
                          5th Gear
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 981

                          #27
                          All done.



                          The tab width was just a shade under .375" as measured from a 2.25 spare engine that I have. I changed the .640" to .625". The part is made from 4140 steel at a Rockwell C of 25. It is unpainted. I'd like $80 for it. I showed it to our lead machinist and he said it was worth much more, but I'll stick with my original price.
                          61 II 109" Pickup (Restomod, 350 small block, TR4050)
                          66 IIA 88" Station Wagon (sold)
                          66 IIA 109" Pickup (Restomod, 5MGE, R380)
                          67 IIA 109" NADA Wagon (sold)
                          88, 2.5TD 110 RHD non-hicap pickup

                          -I used to know everything there was to know about Land Rovers; then I joined the RN Bulletin Board.

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                          • jp-
                            5th Gear
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 981

                            #28
                            Originally posted by KSMTAW
                            But- I am not sure the width of those tabs is that critical. It looks to me that all they do is keep the flange off of the pully. Just enought to allow the nuts to attach on the back side.

                            Thanks !
                            Just a correction, but those tabs sit down into a slot on the pulley itself to prevent the flange from slipping, they do not hold the flange away from the pulley per se.
                            61 II 109" Pickup (Restomod, 350 small block, TR4050)
                            66 IIA 88" Station Wagon (sold)
                            66 IIA 109" Pickup (Restomod, 5MGE, R380)
                            67 IIA 109" NADA Wagon (sold)
                            88, 2.5TD 110 RHD non-hicap pickup

                            -I used to know everything there was to know about Land Rovers; then I joined the RN Bulletin Board.

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                            • G.G. Sprock
                              Low Range
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 47

                              #29
                              Nice machine work J.P. I might just have to make me one of them there suckers.

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                              • jp-
                                5th Gear
                                • Oct 2006
                                • 981

                                #30
                                Originally posted by G.G. Sprock
                                Nice machine work J.P. I might just have to make me one of them there suckers.
                                Thanks!

                                The concentricity between all the diameters is +/-.001". (Turned on a Takisawa lathe.)

                                I rough milled the tabs in, then precision ground them to spec.

                                Just a fun project that I did in my spare time.
                                61 II 109" Pickup (Restomod, 350 small block, TR4050)
                                66 IIA 88" Station Wagon (sold)
                                66 IIA 109" Pickup (Restomod, 5MGE, R380)
                                67 IIA 109" NADA Wagon (sold)
                                88, 2.5TD 110 RHD non-hicap pickup

                                -I used to know everything there was to know about Land Rovers; then I joined the RN Bulletin Board.

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