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  • Rosie
    1st Gear
    • Jul 2008
    • 168

    sluggish wiper motors

    Les fixed my wiper motors!!!! Thank you so much Les!!!!!
    I installed them, and find that they are sluggish. Not to compare them with anything on a new vehicle of course, but would expect them to go from one side of the windshield to the other. They will go a little more than half way. I have played around with positioning and have got them centered pretty well, but they do not cover much of the viewing area. They are also a bit slow. Could hardly expect them to wipe a wet snow away.
    Any suggestions for giving a boost to 1966 independent wiper motors??
    Thanks!!
  • LaneRover
    Overdrive
    • Oct 2006
    • 1743

    #2
    Mine have different levels of sluggishness and also seem to 'warm' up and move across much more of the screen after a bit of use.

    How long have yours been sitting?

    Overall I would first check all of your connections and clean up any rust/dirt/crap that may be on the connections. It is amazing how much cleaning up the connections can help.

    Brent
    1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
    1965 109 SW - nearly running well
    1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
    1969 109 P-UP

    http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...2&l=64cfe23aa2

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    • greenmeanie
      Overdrive
      • Oct 2006
      • 1358

      #3
      As stated above check your connections and clean the motors. If you don't have one now get a multimeter because you will become familiar with automotive electrics. Look for as close to 12V at the motor as you can. There will be some feeder drop reducing the volts but it should not be excessive.

      If you don't have 12 V then first check the alternator and battery output. If they are normal clean all the connections you can find for that circuit. Check the voltage at each connection. If that doesn't do it I'd suggest putting in a relay taking a feed directly from the battery although this doesn't appear to be something most people have to do.

      Gregor

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      • graniterover
        1st Gear
        • Oct 2006
        • 167

        #4
        They go faster when there is water on the windshield.

        As for wiping snow..... good luck!

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        • I Leak Oil
          Overdrive
          • Nov 2006
          • 1796

          #5
          They usually slow down when the grease in the gearbox portion gets old and becomes hard. Clean the old grease out and put new grease in. The lack of range of motion is usually caused by wear in the slot in the bronze engagement sleeve.
          Jason T.
          Jason
          "Clubs are for Chumps" Club president

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          • Rosie
            1st Gear
            • Jul 2008
            • 168

            #6
            The connections are all new, as the vehicle has been rewired, so probably not a dirt/grim issue....

            but this is intrequing......Jason, what is the bronze engagement sleeve? would I find that in the manual. I will look, but if you have any more info, I would appreciate.
            Originally posted by Jason T.
            The lack of range of motion is usually caused by wear in the slot in the bronze engagement sleeve.
            Jason T.

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            • Andrew IIA
              3rd Gear
              • Feb 2008
              • 327

              #7
              The properly functioning wipers on my '63 are nearly useless.

              RAIN-X is a series rover's best friend ! as well as AAA card, and a roll of paper towels

              Best regards, Andrew
              Andrew
              '63 SIIA 88" SW

              http://hungrynaturalist.blogspot.com/

              Rover Pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/skunkal...7610584998247/

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              • LaneRover
                Overdrive
                • Oct 2006
                • 1743

                #8
                Ditto on the Rain-X and in the winter a scraper - for inside. . .
                1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
                1965 109 SW - nearly running well
                1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
                1969 109 P-UP

                http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...2&l=64cfe23aa2

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                • KingSlug
                  1st Gear
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 177

                  #9
                  Go here: http://vivalaant.wordpress.com/2007/...liIwEAAACTl8QA

                  I pretty much documented the whole rebuild of series wiper motors. Follow the directions and use a good grease and you should be fine.

                  Jared
                  Visit The Wandering Hippo (my 109 S2A Ambulance).

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                  • SafeAirOne
                    Overdrive
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 3435

                    #10
                    Originally posted by LaneRover
                    Ditto on the Rain-X....
                    I definitely concur--Rain-X makes windshield wipers obsolete except in snow.
                    --Mark

                    1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

                    0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
                    (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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                    • daveb
                      5th Gear
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 513

                      #11
                      Howdy

                      I used rain-x a few times on my Series vehicles and I always found that although it did improve visibility in some situations, there were a few drawbacks. most of them more of a problem at night.

                      1. since the windscreen is nearly vertical, the beads of water don't just fly off like they do on a normal car. some do, but the others would just dance around without really going anywhere.

                      2. the light from cars behind me would reflect of the water beads and make them opaque, effectively preventing me from seeing anything in front of the screen.

                      There were others but those were the major complaints. Also I felt like the wipers worked better without the rain-x. With the rain-x there was streaking. Without it the wipers left a clear swath behind them. Although if you had no wipers at all then the rain-x was obviously an improvement.

                      I've refurbed a few sets of wiper motors and replaced the grease in them with "heavy duty" wheel bearing grease. That seems to work ok without melting and leaking too much. Mind you the motors do build up some heat on the bodies, curious if others have noticed that. That is both pre and post rebuild.

                      Lastly but not leastly (is that a real word?) the biggest improvements I have been able to make to the performance has been making sure the motor body is tightly assembled with loctite so as not to come loose or come apart and the addition of a ground strap from the body to the windscreen. That increased the speed considerably.

                      Somewhere I have a complete two speed single wiper motor set up but I haven't been able to bring myself to do that yet.

                      Oh, and I almost never use the passenger side motor. That's the spare...


                      Originally posted by SafeAirOne
                      I definitely concur--Rain-X makes windshield wipers obsolete except in snow.
                      A Land Rover would never turn up to collect an Oscar. It'd be far too busy doing something important, somewhere, for someone."


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                      • Rosie
                        1st Gear
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 168

                        #12
                        Thank you Jared for your link!
                        Rain x...I will check it out.
                        Thanks!

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                        • greenmeanie
                          Overdrive
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 1358

                          #13
                          Meh,
                          Just move to Phoenix. I'm lucky to use mine 10 times before the rubber rots off them.

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                          • gudjeon
                            5th Gear
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 613

                            #14
                            I agree with daveb on the rain-x thing. I have not had good experience with it. I found my rebuilt wiper motors do get quite warm to the touch if running for an extended period. I have had them running one time driving 3 hrs through a snow storm. They worked fine, considering the technology they were made with. I have an uprated heater which makes my windshield steam when wet so this probably helps them out clearing snow.

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                            • SafeAirOne
                              Overdrive
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 3435

                              #15
                              Originally posted by gudjeon
                              I agree with daveb on the rain-x thing. I have not had good experience with it.
                              Interesting...The only problem I've ever had with it is driving through fog or mist, where the droplets on the windscreen were too tiny to form into drops large enough to get carried off by wind or by gravity. Otherwise it was great. Of course, you must re-apply the stuff every 3-4 weeks to keep it working properly.
                              --Mark

                              1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

                              0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
                              (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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