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  • pvkd
    1st Gear
    • Jan 2007
    • 118

    Toe In

    What Toe In are you using?

    The Green Bible describes the Toe-In in inches and mm but not in degrees.

    Thanks,

    Paul
    1971 109 Safari Wagon (1 ton chassis)
    1995 LWB Range Rover Classic
    1997 Defender 90 (repaired at last)
    2001 P38A Range Rover
  • Linus Tremaine
    1st Gear
    • Jan 2007
    • 178

    #2
    isnt that good?

    I think toe is supposed to be measured in inches or millimeters, not degrees. You want between 3/64" and 3/32" toe in for a series.

    Camber is measured in degrees- 1.5 degrees positive for a series.

    Caster is measured in degrees- 3 degrees positive for a series.

    Neither of those are adjustable, though they can go out of spec if the railko bushing is worn or if the thrust washer is worn out.
    1968 Land Rover "Park Ranger" camper **SOLD**
    1967 109 **SOLD**
    NADA Dormobile #601 **SOLD**
    1965 IIA 88 2.5NA Diesel
    1963 Mercedes 300se
    1975 Volvo C303
    KJ6AQK

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    • pvkd
      1st Gear
      • Jan 2007
      • 118

      #3
      Hello Linus,

      I think the alignment guys work in degrees of toe not inches?

      Paul
      1971 109 Safari Wagon (1 ton chassis)
      1995 LWB Range Rover Classic
      1997 Defender 90 (repaired at last)
      2001 P38A Range Rover

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      • Linus Tremaine
        1st Gear
        • Jan 2007
        • 178

        #4
        Do it yourself

        Paul,
        i think you should find a better shop


        Alternatively, its quite easy to do your own.

        Spray paint the tire while spinning it- paint a stripe along the tread surface all the way around the outer diameter of the tire. Then, you need to draw a line in that paint all the way around. Its common to make a stand with a nail sticking out of it. You want to make the stand so that you can hold it with your foot or similar while spinning the tire so that the nail scrapes a line in the paint evenly all the way around. You can build anything you want, just make sure the nail doesnt move side to side making an uneven line.

        Then, just measure the distance from the line on one tire to the line on the other tire. Take the measurement on the front of the tires and from the back of the tires and adjust the track rod so that the measurement is 3/64-3/32" smaller in the front than it is in the rear.


        I *think*, from what little searching I just did online, that toe is commonly measured in inches/mm
        1968 Land Rover "Park Ranger" camper **SOLD**
        1967 109 **SOLD**
        NADA Dormobile #601 **SOLD**
        1965 IIA 88 2.5NA Diesel
        1963 Mercedes 300se
        1975 Volvo C303
        KJ6AQK

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        • pvkd
          1st Gear
          • Jan 2007
          • 118

          #5
          Linus,

          Interesting method and definitely a method appropriate to the vehicle!

          Paul

          By the way I re-installed my springs with new spring bushings today. I also put new lock washers and thread locker on my front flange bolts. Now maybe they will stay tight.
          1971 109 Safari Wagon (1 ton chassis)
          1995 LWB Range Rover Classic
          1997 Defender 90 (repaired at last)
          2001 P38A Range Rover

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          • amcordo
            5th Gear
            • Jun 2009
            • 740

            #6
            Alignment Shop

            Hi all!

            So according to my haynes manual the alignment needs to be done at my local Leyland dealer... hm. Might be a problem.

            Anyone suggest a good national alignment shop chain that they think is the best? Or more specifically won't start crying when I pull up?

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            • jac04
              Overdrive
              • Feb 2007
              • 1884

              #7
              Originally posted by Linus Tremaine
              Then, just measure the distance from the line on one tire to the line on the other tire. Take the measurement on the front of the tires and from the back of the tires and adjust the track rod so that the measurement is 3/64-3/32" smaller in the front than it is in the rear.
              Except that the Green Bible specifies that the toe be measured at the road wheel and not the tire. Your method will result in slightly less toe-in as measured in degrees. Probably not that big of a deal however.

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