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  • Tim Smith
    Overdrive
    • Nov 2006
    • 1504

    #16
    Originally posted by yorker
    Propane isn't very useful on a NA diesel vs. a turbo...
    Really? I thought propane was to diesel motors as Nitrus is to petrol motors.

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    • SafeAirOne
      Overdrive
      • Apr 2008
      • 3435

      #17
      Originally posted by scott
      parts are in!...a rebuilt 7:1 shaved to give a 8.5:1, a 2.5 cam and .060 over pistons...
      Sounds like you'll be rovering in no time


      BTW...I was just noticing your signature. Did you always have "(ret)" on there? I don't remember it... If that's new, then congratulations!
      --Mark

      1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

      0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
      (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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      • scott
        Overdrive
        • Oct 2006
        • 1226

        #18
        nc rover, i took pics but with it out the linkage just ain't there. but basically what i did was mount my weber so that the linkage is to the left (i have a lhd). i had to mess with it for a while but finally got a real smooth movement through the full range of the throttle. when i get it all back in i'll try and do a movie clip for ya

        mark, yes the (Ret) is new and feels great.
        '64 Series IIA 88 Canvas Tilt
        '68 Series IIA RHD Ambulance
        '76 Spitfire 1500
        '07 LR3 (Series Recovery Vehicle)

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        • greenmeanie
          Overdrive
          • Oct 2006
          • 1358

          #19
          Scott,
          Do you still have your old head? If it is scap it would be fun to section it and take some pictures of the intake and exhaust ports. Not that it'll ever be a power house but a few pictures of these would be fun to duscuss in terms of flow improvements.

          Cheers
          Gregor

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          • scott
            Overdrive
            • Oct 2006
            • 1226

            #20
            Originally posted by greenmeanie
            Scott,
            Do you still have your old head? If it is scap it would be fun to section it and take some pictures of the intake and exhaust ports. Not that it'll ever be a power house but a few pictures of these would be fun to duscuss in terms of flow improvements.

            Cheers
            Gregor
            i still have it, was going to turn it into a lawn ornament. are you suggesting disecting it? that would be a heck of a saw job
            '64 Series IIA 88 Canvas Tilt
            '68 Series IIA RHD Ambulance
            '76 Spitfire 1500
            '07 LR3 (Series Recovery Vehicle)

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            • SafeAirOne
              Overdrive
              • Apr 2008
              • 3435

              #21
              Originally posted by scott
              i still have it, was going to turn it into a lawn ornament. are you suggesting disecting it? that would be a heck of a saw job
              Naw...A hack saw and a couple of good blades and you'll be done in no time!
              --Mark

              1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

              0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
              (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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              • greenmeanie
                Overdrive
                • Oct 2006
                • 1358

                #22
                Originally posted by scott
                i still have it, was going to turn it into a lawn ornament. are you suggesting disecting it? that would be a heck of a saw job
                Yup, stick her on the bench, slice and dice. A sectioned head like the engines you see in those in museums would be a cool ornament.

                I would probably use a grinder with a cut off blade and then clean it up with a file. It would be nice to see a cross section of the intake port and the exhaust port as it can tell you a lot about how these things flow.

                Of course a few beers later a horizontal cross section through the remaining intake and exhaust port would be a nice little project but a lot more cutting.

                Out of interest, does anyone know the intake and exhaust valve size on a 2 1/4. I'm not planning a hot rod but the power in an engine is in its ability to breathe.

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                • yorker
                  Overdrive
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 1635

                  #23
                  Mmmm I'd love to see the head sectioned- someone have a good chop saw?
                  1965 SIIa 88",1975 Ex-MOD 109/Ambulance, 1989 RRC, blah, blah, blah...

                  Land Rover UK Forums

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                  • scott
                    Overdrive
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 1226

                    #24
                    have you chop happies ever looked at a stripped down head? the ports are pretty straight, you can see the valves and they're only in a couple of inches in. where would you cut to see what you want?
                    '64 Series IIA 88 Canvas Tilt
                    '68 Series IIA RHD Ambulance
                    '76 Spitfire 1500
                    '07 LR3 (Series Recovery Vehicle)

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                    • greenmeanie
                      Overdrive
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 1358

                      #25
                      Oh yes I've looked at them. It's the corner radii and the proximity of the water jacket that are the really interesting thing. A sharp corner results in a lot of shrouding regardless of valve size. It is usually the material thickness ovver the water jacket that limits your ability to blend the corner.

                      Quite frankly your right - I am chop happy. If its scrap its worth getting somethig useful out of it. If I was doing a cross section I would cut on a vertical plane through the center line of the valve guide parallel to the direction of the intake port.

                      There's some cool pictures on line of chevy stuff done like this and it is very useful in understanding the flow problems in that head. It is also useful to consider things like the throat diameter of the valve seat vs valve diameter.

                      Man, I sound like I'm going to hot rod a 2 1/4.

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                      • badvibes
                        3rd Gear
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 364

                        #26
                        you know I'm good at breaking things...

                        Originally posted by yorker
                        Mmmm I'd love to see the head sectioned- someone have a good chop saw?
                        Scott-
                        I have a 14" chop saw if you're really feeling this ambitious... But was there any damage to the head? Might be something someone could actually use still.
                        1964 Series 2A SW, LHD mostly stock, often runs!

                        1991 Range Rover Hunter

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