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  • Andrew IIA
    3rd Gear
    • Feb 2008
    • 327

    Silent Horn

    Howdy Group,

    The horn in my IIA quit today; actually I noticed it today but it may have been dead for a while (it almost never gets used). I wouldn't really care but it needs to work to get an inspection sticker.

    So, what the easiest way to figure out if its the button/switch or the horn itself that is misbehaving ?

    Thanks, Andrew
    '63 SIIA 88"
    Andrew
    '63 SIIA 88" SW

    http://hungrynaturalist.blogspot.com/

    Rover Pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/skunkal...7610584998247/
  • SafeAirOne
    Overdrive
    • Apr 2008
    • 3435

    #2
    Originally posted by Andrew IIA
    So, what the easiest way to figure out if its the button/switch or the horn itself that is misbehaving ?
    I'd just take the positive wire off the horn (presuming you've got a negative earth rover) and run a jumper wire from the positive terminal on the horn to the positive battery terminal. If the horn is properly grounded and functioning, the horn will beep. Again, make sure horn is adequately grounded or else you may buy a replacement horn for no reason.
    --Mark

    1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

    0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
    (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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    • alaskajosh
      2nd Gear
      • Sep 2007
      • 208

      #3
      Originally posted by Andrew IIA
      I wouldn't really care but it needs to work to get an inspection sticker.
      The first thing I would do is relocate the faulty horn... OUT OF STATE!!!
      My mind is reeling at the thought of horn cops!

      Kind regards, Josh

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      • lew_sa
        Low Range
        • Dec 2006
        • 21

        #4
        Just had to repair my horn to pass state inspection last weekend. After ensuring the horn itself still worked, I traced the circuit. My problem ended up being that the spring loaded contact that rotates around a copper sleeve on the steering column as you turn the steering wheel wore out. Bent it down a little and fixed the problem.

        R/,
        Lew

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        • KevinNY
          4th Gear
          • Oct 2006
          • 484

          #5
          Get one of those big 18 wheeler air horns Andrew, no one will expect it!
          The Goat, 2.8 Daihatsu Td, '73 coil conversion

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          • Andrew IIA
            3rd Gear
            • Feb 2008
            • 327

            #6
            Thanks everyone. I will investigate it today and report back
            Andrew
            '63 SIIA 88" SW

            http://hungrynaturalist.blogspot.com/

            Rover Pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/skunkal...7610584998247/

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            • Jeff Aronson
              Moderator
              • Oct 2006
              • 569

              #7
              Good advice from everyone here. Maine inspection requires a working horn, too.

              The horn circuit is always "live." What the horn contact button does is actually operate as a switch, to complete the hron circuit.

              Do check if the horn itself actually works. Run a wire from the positive [if negative ground] post of the battery to a horn contact - try each one. If you have a working horn, the horn will beep when you get current from the battery.

              Do unbolt the horn from its bracket and clean all the contacts and the brackets/bolts. Try the horn again, this time directly to the battery.

              If it doesn't work, replace it [I have replaced two, one on the Land Rover and one on an MGB]. I have also been fooled before, almost buying a new bolt when the problem were under the steering wheel.

              If you take a thin pry blade [a flathead screwdriver] you can pry out the horn button rim off the steering wheel. When you have it off, you'll see the contacts under the rim hub and one under the nut that holds the steering wheel in place. Bending them to assure proper contact might help. There's also a wire on a spade connector that assures electricity between the horn button and the inner copper contact. Make certain that wire is not cut.

              If none of this works, then you're going to have to trace the wiring using a schematic diagram.

              Good luck and let us know.

              Jeff
              Jeff Aronson
              Vinalhaven, ME 04863
              '66 Series II-A SW 88"
              '66 Series II-A HT 88"
              '80 Triumph TR-7 Spider
              '80 Triumph Spitfire
              '66 Corvair Monza Coupe
              http://www.landroverwriter.com

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              • Andrew IIA
                3rd Gear
                • Feb 2008
                • 327

                #8
                Okay, using everyone's excellent advice it was easy to determine that the horn-unit itself is dead . Truck inspection not due for another month so not a crisis (for now).

                Thanks gang.

                Best Regards, Andrew
                '63 SIIA 88"
                Andrew
                '63 SIIA 88" SW

                http://hungrynaturalist.blogspot.com/

                Rover Pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/skunkal...7610584998247/

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                • Andrew IIA
                  3rd Gear
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 327

                  #9
                  Follow up: here is the dead horn. It was not quite what I expected

                  Andrew
                  '63 SIIA 88" SW

                  http://hungrynaturalist.blogspot.com/

                  Rover Pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/skunkal...7610584998247/

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                  • alaskajosh
                    2nd Gear
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 208

                    #10
                    Careful buddy!! You know my kids might be reading this site!!

                    Glad you're getting it sorted-- Josh

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                    • LaneRover
                      Overdrive
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 1743

                      #11
                      Ah yes the Victorian Industrial age version of what is now known as Silicone Implants.
                      1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
                      1965 109 SW - nearly running well
                      1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
                      1969 109 P-UP

                      http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...2&l=64cfe23aa2

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