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  • Cutter
    4th Gear
    • Feb 2009
    • 455

    High output transfer case highway speeds?

    Hi all,
    I am the new owner of a 1974 series3 109 with a euro spec 6 cyl. The truck was for sale on this forum(deadhead derek's listing). Anyways I am curious the speed I should expect out of it since it has the high output transfer box that RN sells. As is I can get up to 50mph on the highway, but I expect it can go faster. The tires aren't aggressive, so the resistance isn't too bad there.

    I know there's still some mixture issues as the truck runs better with the choke out, but I think I need to replace the needle/tube as it's as rich as I can get now. Just curious what I can hope for, the engine seems healthy and if it wasn't for the transfer box I'd be almost satisfied.
    _________________________________________
    1986 3.5l 110 SW Austrian Feurwehr
  • rwollschlager
    5th Gear
    • Sep 2007
    • 583

    #2
    Congrats on the purchase!
    ^^^^ Providence RI? If you're ever in southeastern CT (mystic, stonington) drop a line!
    If you need any help with repairs there is Rover Special Vehicles on Jamestown Island (Just outside of newport ...he has my stage 1 109 now...) Or kane's motor sports also in RI. (deal with all sorts of old british vehicles)

    As for the high ratio t-case you should be able to reach 60 no problem i think.

    Good luck and welcome!

    -Rob
    ------------------------------------------------
    72 SIII 88
    67 SIIA 109
    82 SIII Stage 1 V8
    -- http://www.youtube.com/barnfind88 --

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    • KevinNY
      4th Gear
      • Oct 2006
      • 484

      #3
      Is that flat out, foot on the floor? If so you have some tuning to do.
      The Goat, 2.8 Daihatsu Td, '73 coil conversion

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      • SafeAirOne
        Overdrive
        • Apr 2008
        • 3435

        #4
        Originally posted by KevinNY
        Is that flat out, foot on the floor? If so you have some tuning to do.
        I agree; With my 1973 UK-spec, former euro 2.6, 109, I can get up to 60 with my stock transfer case and transplanted 65-horsepower 2.5 diesel. This is without headwind, of course.

        You should be able to do better than that with your 6-cylinder AND hi-ratio transfer case.
        --Mark

        1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

        0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
        (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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        • Cutter
          4th Gear
          • Feb 2009
          • 455

          #5
          Yep, that's pedal to floor. I've gone faster on downhills.
          _________________________________________
          1986 3.5l 110 SW Austrian Feurwehr

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          • KevinNY
            4th Gear
            • Oct 2006
            • 484

            #6
            Sounds like you are running too lean, that motor needs more gas. You should be topping out 3rd at 50MPH with a Hi Ratio transfer case.
            The Goat, 2.8 Daihatsu Td, '73 coil conversion

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            • Cutter
              4th Gear
              • Feb 2009
              • 455

              #7
              Thats what I was thinking too, running lean still. I've got some calls to make. The truck has apparently always lived at altitude in either the Rockies or Alps, so I wouldn't be surprised if the jet was swapped out to accommodate and now it just isn't happy at sea level. Just curious if anyone knows of any carburetor swaps to replace the zenith-stromberg on there? My friend who had a 2.5 SIII swears it will be worth it, but from my research there aren't many options better than what's on there.

              Someday I want a turbo diesel in there, but I'm going to have to let the penny jar fill up again for a while.
              _________________________________________
              1986 3.5l 110 SW Austrian Feurwehr

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              • greenmeanie
                Overdrive
                • Oct 2006
                • 1358

                #8
                For the 2.6 the ZS carb is fine. They are really simple to work on too. You just need to find out what needle is called out in the parts book and order that. Throw in a diaphragm and replace the o-ring in the base as well while you're at it. I use Joe Curto in NY when I need parts for the pair on my 101.

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                • I Leak Oil
                  Overdrive
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 1796

                  #9
                  Along with tuning you may want to make sure the accelerator is operating through the full range of motion.
                  Jason T.
                  Jason
                  "Clubs are for Chumps" Club president

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                  • Eric W S
                    5th Gear
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 609

                    #10
                    In theory, your HO transfer case, if healthy, wouldn't affect you rspeed in anyway. It's the engine that you need to address if you want more speed. If it can't push the gears then...

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                    • Cutter
                      4th Gear
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 455

                      #11
                      yes, I've pulled the carb a few times and made sure the linkage was going through the full motion. The distributer weighted bobs were seized as well so that improved things quite a bit.

                      I don't think there is anything amiss with the transfer case, don't think I implied that. The focus is on the fueling and ensuring the vacuum for now.
                      _________________________________________
                      1986 3.5l 110 SW Austrian Feurwehr

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                      • SafeAirOne
                        Overdrive
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 3435

                        #12
                        You might want to check the electric fuel pump mounted on top of the chassis underneath the driver's (RHD) door to make sure it is operating properly and that any internal filter within the pump itself is not clogged. I'm not 100% postitve that this electric pump has an internal filter, but they often do.

                        Since this electric pump is unique to 6-cylinder rovers, it must be necessary to supply adequate fuel to the engine during high-rev operations, or else the factory would never have put it there in the first place. Also check all other fuel filters installed in the system.

                        You might also open up the forward access panel in floor of the rear tub, remove the fuel quantity sender and clean out the fine-mesh screen at the bottom of the fuel pickup tube.
                        Last edited by SafeAirOne; 04-01-2009, 09:49 PM.
                        --Mark

                        1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

                        0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
                        (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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                        • Cutter
                          4th Gear
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 455

                          #13
                          Thanks for the good points-
                          I pulled the fuel pump apart I think the day I got the truck to make sure the filter was clear and that the pump worked and to clean up the wiring mess attached to it. Thankfully all was in order- I also checked the filter up by the engine which seemed in good condition. I didn't know there even was an access panel in back, there's carpet in mine, so I'll definitely give that a look.
                          _________________________________________
                          1986 3.5l 110 SW Austrian Feurwehr

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                          • dmurrell
                            Low Range
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 32

                            #14
                            Have someone put the pedal to the floor and see if there's still room to go with the bellcrank on the carb. In my experience the throttle isn't opening all the way as the bellcranks slip on the shaft mounted to the bulkhead and/or the pedal has slipped.

                            When I get my Series III it would only go 45 MPH ......

                            Eventually I tack welded the bellcranks and pedal on the shaft and "Bob's your uncle".

                            PM me if you want more details.

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                            • adkrover
                              2nd Gear
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 206

                              #15
                              You say you purchased this truck from a guy named "deadhead". If he was anything like the deadheads I've known, you should definitely get the truck properly sorted. It's sounds like a solid truck that needs a proper "shake down".

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