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  • nate6472
    1st Gear
    • Apr 2009
    • 133

    Landy Leans to the right

    My 82 SIII is a RHD and leans to that side. I have replaced the shocks all around and the springs on the RHD side and it still leans 5 degrees. The new springs are 3x thicker than the originals. Any suggestions?
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    Nate B
    88 D90 RHD, V8 Present
    84 Defender 110 3 Door RHD Petrol in 2012
    80 Merc 230GE Petrol in 2011
    78 SIII 109" RHD Petrol in 2011
    82 SIII 88" RHD Petrol in 2010
    82 SIII 88" RHD Diesel in 2009
    92 Range Rover - In the 90's
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  • LaneRover
    Overdrive
    • Oct 2006
    • 1743

    #2
    They may be 3X thicker but do they have an arc that is less than the originals?

    You may be able to get the arc changed at a local brake shop.

    Brent

    You don't happen to have lots and lots of tools and fullgascans on the right side of the vehicle? :-P
    1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
    1965 109 SW - nearly running well
    1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
    1969 109 P-UP

    http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...2&l=64cfe23aa2

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    • scott
      Overdrive
      • Oct 2006
      • 1226

      #3
      my theory. your rhd leans right, my lhd series and lhd spit lean left. the right turns of a lhd are sharper than the left hand turns, the sharper turns put greater force on the out board side, add to this that there is always 150 to 250 lbs in the driver seat. the suspension of the driver's side just works harder, wears out faster. or it could be the the rhd are more conservative than the lhd liberals
      '64 Series IIA 88 Canvas Tilt
      '68 Series IIA RHD Ambulance
      '76 Spitfire 1500
      '07 LR3 (Series Recovery Vehicle)

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      • nate6472
        1st Gear
        • Apr 2009
        • 133

        #4
        The new parts were Britpart, so I assume the arch is correct. It did sit level for several weeks, but when I brought it back after a short run last night it was 5 degrees off and this AM also. There is a piece which afixes the back of each leaf spring to the frame. I wonder if a taller one of these would help (if even available).
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        Nate B
        88 D90 RHD, V8 Present
        84 Defender 110 3 Door RHD Petrol in 2012
        80 Merc 230GE Petrol in 2011
        78 SIII 109" RHD Petrol in 2011
        82 SIII 88" RHD Petrol in 2010
        82 SIII 88" RHD Diesel in 2009
        92 Range Rover - In the 90's
        cuis2000@yahoo.com

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        • vkjar
          Low Range
          • May 2008
          • 79

          #5
          Originally posted by nate6472
          It did sit level for several weeks, but when I brought it back after a short run last night it was 5 degrees off and this AM also.
          I would re-check everything and make sure all is tight and nothing has shifted since you installed them.

          I assume you are talking about the shackles which attach the string the the frame? having miss matched shackles would not be a good thing.
          1966 SIIa 88"
          Calgary Alberta Canada
          Best thing about working in the northern Canadian bush at -40, very few Black Flies!

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          • vkjar
            Low Range
            • May 2008
            • 79

            #6
            TeriAnn has something on this on her website http://www.expeditionlandrover.info/spring_rates.htm
            check it out
            1966 SIIa 88"
            Calgary Alberta Canada
            Best thing about working in the northern Canadian bush at -40, very few Black Flies!

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            • Eric W S
              5th Gear
              • Dec 2006
              • 609

              #7
              Originally posted by nate6472
              The new parts were Britpart, so I assume the arch is correct. It did sit level for several weeks, but when I brought it back after a short run last night it was 5 degrees off and this AM also. There is a piece which afixes the back of each leaf spring to the frame. I wonder if a taller one of these would help (if even available).
              Brit parts can be hit or miss. Could be that the springs were crap and have flattened out. That's what it sounds like to me. Proper springs made of spring steel should have settled unless you installed them incorrectly.

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              • LaneRover
                Overdrive
                • Oct 2006
                • 1743

                #8
                When did you tighten the springs after replacing them?

                If you tightened the bolts down before the weight of the vehicle was on the springs then that could potentially cause some of the problem.
                1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
                1965 109 SW - nearly running well
                1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
                1969 109 P-UP

                http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...2&l=64cfe23aa2

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                • junkyddog11
                  1st Gear
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 195

                  #9
                  put some more junk (I mean spares)n the other side of it. Foolproof solution.

                  I find it odd that you'd be running missmatched springs on opposing sides. Never a solid plan.
                  Matt Browne
                  www.overlandengineering.com
                  "resurecting junk through engineering"

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                  • ktom300
                    Low Range
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 50

                    #10
                    I think they all lean one way or another. 88"s seem worse. Mine is an RHD and leans left. I've been trying to only fill the right side tank but I don't think it will ever be level.

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                    • nate6472
                      1st Gear
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 133

                      #11
                      Thanks for all the replies. I replaced the right side only because of the lean with the original springs (hoping to level it out). I installed them following LR's repair manual instructions. Last night I tried to adjust the shackle angle with the frame jacked up and the weight of the wheel and axle pulling down on the spring. This did not work much. I figured if I loosened everything while not jacked up, it would settle more.
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                      Nate B
                      88 D90 RHD, V8 Present
                      84 Defender 110 3 Door RHD Petrol in 2012
                      80 Merc 230GE Petrol in 2011
                      78 SIII 109" RHD Petrol in 2011
                      82 SIII 88" RHD Petrol in 2010
                      82 SIII 88" RHD Diesel in 2009
                      92 Range Rover - In the 90's
                      cuis2000@yahoo.com

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                      • LaneRover
                        Overdrive
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 1743

                        #12
                        But if you tightened stuff before the weight was on the springs you can ruin the rubber bushings. I have no idea how quickly that would happen but by tightening and then lowering the rubber bushings are under constant twisting forces.
                        1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
                        1965 109 SW - nearly running well
                        1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
                        1969 109 P-UP

                        http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...2&l=64cfe23aa2

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                        • Firemanshort
                          2nd Gear
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 282

                          #13
                          outside the box - have you looked at your high side? Is there a reason why that may be too high? Just spit-ballin' here....
                          Firemanshort
                          1980 Stage One
                          (Past owner of 1973 Series III - Highlander)

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                          • usadventureracing
                            1st Gear
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 106

                            #14
                            My RHD drives has a slight lean to the right.
                            1968 Series IIa 88 w/ hardtop - SOLD
                            1970 Series IIa 88 (parts car)
                            M416 Trailer
                            2008 Toyota FJ
                            2009 Volvo C30
                            1983 D110
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