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  • nate6472
    1st Gear
    • Apr 2009
    • 133

    Fourth Gear Grinds a Little

    Most of the time, when I engage 4th gear, there is a slight grind (just enough to get the wife's look of "can't you drive a stick shift"). I have changed the oil to Lucas Heavy Duty and it still occurs.
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  • daveb
    5th Gear
    • Nov 2006
    • 513

    #2
    what's your idle speed?

    Originally posted by nate6472
    Most of the time, when I engage 4th gear, there is a slight grind (just enough to get the wife's look of "can't you drive a stick shift"). I have changed the oil to Lucas Heavy Duty and it still occurs.
    A Land Rover would never turn up to collect an Oscar. It'd be far too busy doing something important, somewhere, for someone."


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    • nate6472
      1st Gear
      • Apr 2009
      • 133

      #3
      No special adjustments have been made, the idle speed adjuster in the cabin is all the way to the left (low).
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      Nate B
      88 D90 RHD, V8 Present
      84 Defender 110 3 Door RHD Petrol in 2012
      80 Merc 230GE Petrol in 2011
      78 SIII 109" RHD Petrol in 2011
      82 SIII 88" RHD Petrol in 2010
      82 SIII 88" RHD Diesel in 2009
      92 Range Rover - In the 90's
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      • daveb
        5th Gear
        • Nov 2006
        • 513

        #4
        I've had trucks where the idle was a bit too high making shifting difficult although usually that is in the lower gears, as with most transmission problems.

        Originally posted by nate6472
        No special adjustments have been made, the idle speed adjuster in the cabin is all the way to the left (low).
        A Land Rover would never turn up to collect an Oscar. It'd be far too busy doing something important, somewhere, for someone."


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        • Tim Smith
          Overdrive
          • Nov 2006
          • 1504

          #5
          I can't imagine it's the idle unless you are shifting into 4th from a dead stop. In which case, I think the looks you are getting are deserved.
          < ducking >

          Maybe the syncro? Have you tried slowing your shift into 4th down a little to let the gears mesh up a bit better?

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          • jac04
            Overdrive
            • Feb 2007
            • 1884

            #6
            I'm not sure what the specs are for the Lucas Heavy Duty oil, but sometimes the syncros don't like limited slip additives. You can try an oil without LS additives (which can be difficult to find) and see if that helps.

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            • KingSlug
              1st Gear
              • Oct 2006
              • 177

              #7
              Have you tried to double clutch? If you can DC and the sound goes away then its a syncro.

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              • nate6472
                1st Gear
                • Apr 2009
                • 133

                #8
                What do you mean by double clutch?

                The grind is less if I shift slower (take more time between 3 and 4).
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                Nate B
                88 D90 RHD, V8 Present
                84 Defender 110 3 Door RHD Petrol in 2012
                80 Merc 230GE Petrol in 2011
                78 SIII 109" RHD Petrol in 2011
                82 SIII 88" RHD Petrol in 2010
                82 SIII 88" RHD Diesel in 2009
                92 Range Rover - In the 90's
                cuis2000@yahoo.com

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                • nate6472
                  1st Gear
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 133

                  #9
                  It is really labeled "heavy gear oil" for semi-trucks.
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                  Nate B
                  88 D90 RHD, V8 Present
                  84 Defender 110 3 Door RHD Petrol in 2012
                  80 Merc 230GE Petrol in 2011
                  78 SIII 109" RHD Petrol in 2011
                  82 SIII 88" RHD Petrol in 2010
                  82 SIII 88" RHD Diesel in 2009
                  92 Range Rover - In the 90's
                  cuis2000@yahoo.com

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                  • LaneRover
                    Overdrive
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 1743

                    #10
                    I would go along with the synchro is going. By double clutching they mean. Putting in the clutch to remove it from gear then while it is in neutral putting letting the clutch out and then putting the clutch in before you go into 4th.

                    Does it do this at all down shifting into 3rd?
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