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  • glbft1
    1st Gear
    • Dec 2006
    • 149

    coating the frame with bar and chain oil

    greetings all,
    We live in maine and want to prevent any damage to the frame in the winter, the old timers swear by a heavy coat of bar and chain oil every year to fight rust. wanted to get feed back on this and wonder if anyone else has done this on the east coast. this truck is a ex-mod and has a factory undercoating on the frame already just want double protection

    Thanks
    greg
  • VTRover
    3rd Gear
    • Feb 2007
    • 340

    #2
    I've seen it done by a driving instructor on his FJ 40 and FJ 80 and it looks similar to Waxoyl. Don't know if it's good or not but he swore by it.

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    • DADAMS
      Low Range
      • Jun 2009
      • 18

      #3
      I'm considering doing this also. I have heard to add a toilet seal wax ring (which is beeswax I believe) and a small amount of solvent to keep things liquid. I have also looked into buying a product called FluidFilm which is lanolin based and used by the navy and coast guard to protect metal.

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      • LaneRover
        Overdrive
        • Oct 2006
        • 1743

        #4
        Years ago when I first got my Rover folks in Maine went back and forth about oil on the frame. I think that it works great on trucks with 'C' frame chassis and not box frame chassis like a Rover.

        The problem is that most Rover frames rust from the inside out so you have to get the oil inside the frame and it is hard to make sure that you get ever nook and cranny.

        Getting some oil in there is probably better than nothing of course.
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        • scott
          Overdrive
          • Oct 2006
          • 1226

          #5
          I've heard that in the beginning the british army would put their mod roves. On racks drian the oils and would splash the old oils all over the underside
          '64 Series IIA 88 Canvas Tilt
          '68 Series IIA RHD Ambulance
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          • msggunny
            5th Gear
            • Jan 2007
            • 621

            #6
            Originally posted by glbft1
            greetings all,
            We live in maine and want to prevent any damage to the frame in the winter, the old timers swear by a heavy coat of bar and chain oil every year to fight rust. wanted to get feed back on this and wonder if anyone else has done this on the east coast. this truck is a ex-mod and has a factory undercoating on the frame already just want double protection

            Thanks
            greg
            Good question, i have asked it before and had similar answers.

            I am going to try that or something similar plus copious amounts of Salt-X or some other marine salt neutralizer. We used it on our M1A1's when we go on Navy ships and it does a great job of stopping the corrosion before it starts by killing the salt.

            We just used a garden pump sprayer and mixed it with water and sprayed away. It was part of our maintenance regiment and did a great job. After "flying" on a hovercraft the tanks were covered with salt water spray and it got into everything.

            FWIW
            First but gone: 91 3 door Disco "White Rhino"
            77 Series III 88 ex MoD "Shongololo"
            Gone and I miss her: 97 D1 5 speed
            04 DII
            08 D3 (LR3)

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            • Jim-ME
              Overdrive
              • Oct 2006
              • 1379

              #7
              Where does one buy Salt-X?
              Jim

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              • jac04
                Overdrive
                • Feb 2007
                • 1884

                #8
                I used to attend "frame oiling" partys when I lived in Maine. They had a neat little device for spraying the insides of the frame. From what I remember, it was a long piece of copper tubing with the end closed off and several radial holes drilled in it. It was hooked up to a garden sprayer, which was filled with mineral oil. The tubing was fed all the way up each side of the frame via the hole in the rear x-member. When the pump was pressurized & the trigger was pulled, it would create a nice 360 degree spray and the tubing would be slowly pulled out of the frame.
                You could make something similar with semi-rigid nylon tubing as well.

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                • bchene
                  Low Range
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 28

                  #9
                  Jim,
                  I am in Maine and have used salt-x. I have gotten it at both Hamilton's Marine and West Marine. Works great on boats and seems to work as well on the landrover.

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                  • Eric W S
                    5th Gear
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 609

                    #10
                    I waxoyled my Defender's frame since I bought it. Give our hosts a call and buy some. Another club member did the home brew and it didn't last that long. You want something that can get powerwashed and last at least a few years. Waxoyl is easy, no mixing required and lasts a long time. Did fine in the salt zone that is Chicago.

                    Save for a Galv frame and be done with it...

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                    • Les Parker
                      RN Sales Team - Super Moderator
                      • May 2006
                      • 2020

                      #11
                      Waxoyl link http://www.roversnorth.com/waxoyl/

                      Why mess with the rest, when you can buy the best?
                      Les Parker
                      Tech. Support and Parts Specialist
                      Rovers North Inc.

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                      • TSR53
                        5th Gear
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 733

                        #12
                        I would suggest not to fritz around and waste time and money crafting up a solution, Waxoyl your Land Rover and get the proper tools to apply this.

                        I Waxoyl'd my 2006 MINI Cooper S before last winter, best thing I could have ever done. Full story here >>


                        Cheers, Thompson
                        Art & Creative Director, Rovers Magazine
                        Rovers North, Inc.

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                        • TedW
                          5th Gear
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 887

                          #13
                          From another Maine owner: I did the bar&chain oil routine back in the early '90s...

                          Better in theory than in practice (IMHO) for 2 reasons:

                          1) It works at first but doesn't wear well - lots of creep on vertical surfaces and it seems to wash off too quickly.

                          2) It is a disgusting, Gawd-awful mess to apply, because unlike Waxoyl-type products it drips iff like crazy. After you apply it people will look at the huge stain in your driveway and think that Captain Hazelwood must have just come over for drinks. And it will be running out of the frame for weeks to come, conveniently dripping on your hot exhaust.

                          Having tried many different products, I am sold on Waxoyl from our illustrious hosts. It goes on, it stays on, it doesn't make a huge mess during application. I am especially pleased with the "HARDWAX" product. It lasts nicely on exposed areas and will not wash off. The regular stuff can be used inside the frame and inside the firewall and doors.

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                          • frans
                            Low Range
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 29

                            #14
                            Try spraying Pam, for that 'oki' rust and mud treatment

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                            • Bertha
                              3rd Gear
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 384

                              #15
                              Be careful the DEP or an environmentalist doesn't catch you employing the oil on the frame method, they will crucify you.
                              1965 109 2door hardtop (restored years ago)
                              1971 88 (restored and as new)
                              1967 88 (the next project)

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