timing a series III w/ a 2.5l

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  • TJR
    2nd Gear
    • Dec 2006
    • 279

    #16
    Here's an east test to validate proper spark plug ignition, with the vehicle running you can pull off a single plug wire (spark plug end, while wearing a thick glove) and see pay attention to the Engine RPM's drop. You shoud be able to tell by the audible change in the engine speed and noise. Replace the wire to the plug and repeat for the other 3. If one wire when removed doesn't cause a change the RPM , you've narrowed it down to that single electrical path or cylinder. Could be the plug, Could be the wire, could be the dist cap. Simply switching the spark plug wire and retesting as metioned above can help you determine what it is. i.e. does the problem move w/ the wire or stay w/ the cylinder.


    A compession test could also determine if there is a burnt or sticky exhaust valve.

    The ignigtion of raw fuel in the exhaust could be from the normally functioning other cylinders.

    Many years back as kids we used to turn off the ignition while still driving my '69 bronco (No steering lock & usually in front of a buddies house late at night) and then place the key back into the run position.. LOUD BANG as planned !!!! quite impressive until I split a cast iron exhaust manifold and the ruptured the muffler... Who was laughing now!!

    Just to back up another posters mention to look at ignition system, I tried to trace a stumbling issue in my bronco , rebuilt the carb, no luck, turned out it was the NEW Napa Dist cap. Changed back to the prior one and the problem went away..


    Here's a cool , well written book on automotive design, function and theory, it's not a repair manual and it's not my auction....



    I was given the same book as a kid and still refer to it today from time to time. What's cool is that all the systems in your rover are essentially covered in this easy to read and follow book. I think it's basically a Highschool automotive shop text book. The rover is so basic the automotive fundementals apply to it.

    Good luck... Talbot

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    • NickDawson
      5th Gear
      • Apr 2009
      • 707

      #17
      Originally posted by TJR
      Thanks! Good timing (intended )

      Originally posted by Nium

      My guess is that you got the dizzy wet when you went in the drink. The radiator fan would have sprayed water everywhere inside the engine bay. The pitch on most boat ramps is pretty steep so that would put the breakfast even lower then the hubs, right?

      You ever seen the movie "The Gods Must be Crazy"? If that Landie can run then you shouldn't have any problems. Heck, that guy didn't even have brakes just a big rock.

      Cheers
      this was about the same time I was troubleshooting a leak and using a power washer frequently. That may prove your theory.

      Still interested in an electronic replacement if that could prevent future issues - thoughts?

      As for "The Gods Must be Crazy" - its on our Netflix list (top of the queue) after being mentioned in several recent threads. Funny you mention it, I've seen one scene of the movie and its what always comes to mind when Im under the hood.

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      • Bertha
        3rd Gear
        • Nov 2007
        • 384

        #18
        Originally posted by NickDawson
        Can someone tell me more about my options for an electronic ignition? I saw someone else (cant find it now) say they are like $30 and a snap to install - if thats the case, sign me up.
        Nick
        Dont keep adding fuel to your fire. The best bet for a novice is to keep things as original as possible, this way you will always be able to use the workshop manual and work with standard values. Don't start messing with an electronic ignition at this point-stick with your points, they are a known value and easy to work with at this juncture.
        1965 109 2door hardtop (restored years ago)
        1971 88 (restored and as new)
        1967 88 (the next project)

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        • NickDawson
          5th Gear
          • Apr 2009
          • 707

          #19
          Originally posted by Bertha
          Nick
          Dont keep adding fuel to your fire. The best bet for a novice is to keep things as original as possible, this way you will always be able to use the workshop manual and work with standard values. Don't start messing with an electronic ignition at this point-stick with your points, they are a known value and easy to work with at this juncture.
          I'm with you in theory - just worried about not knowing what I am doing and causing more problems. Points seem to run about $20 - should I just order a new set?
          I'm also working on a non-standard engine - a 2.5l, so Im never quite sure what in the green bible is applicable (in terms of values) and what is rendered moot.

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          • Bertha
            3rd Gear
            • Nov 2007
            • 384

            #20
            Originally posted by NickDawson
            I'm with you in theory - just worried about not knowing what I am doing and causing more problems. Points seem to run about $20 - should I just order a new set?
            I'm also working on a non-standard engine - a 2.5l, so Im never quite sure what in the green bible is applicable (in terms of values) and what is rendered moot.
            You need a 90/110 ws manual that covers the 2.5 motor ck w our hosts or ebay.
            1965 109 2door hardtop (restored years ago)
            1971 88 (restored and as new)
            1967 88 (the next project)

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            • SafeAirOne
              Overdrive
              • Apr 2008
              • 3435

              #21
              Nick--It was the 90/110 Workshop Manual that I was referring to in my PM to you, not the SIII--Sorry I got confused about which one covered the 2.5 P & D. I'll get that taken care of right now...
              --Mark

              1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

              0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
              (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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              • NickDawson
                5th Gear
                • Apr 2009
                • 707

                #22
                your a saint - thanks SafeAirOne!

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                • Nium
                  4th Gear
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 400

                  #23
                  Electronic ignition

                  The most popular electronic ignitions I've heard of are the...

                  PerTronix system-bolts inside of the dizzy where the points go.


                  Crane XR-700 system-little more involved to install.
                  I couldn't find a website for these guys

                  I personally haven't installed or used either so can't vouch for reliability and I'm not endorsing either just FYI.

                  Not to recommend any other company, as a parts source, 'cause I been shopping with RN for well forever but since they don't offer, as far as I know, anything but OEM style dizzys. BritishPacific.com carries both these dizzys.

                  Cheers
                  Walker
                  1968 Series IIA-"Ronnie"
                  88" SW, 2.25L Petrol, LHD

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