Electronic distributor install help

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • SeriesShorty
    2nd Gear
    • Sep 2008
    • 275

    Electronic distributor install help

    Just got my new electronic distributor and am preparing to install. No instructions came with so I have a few questions before getting started.

    Out of the distributor are a black and red wire, which then connect to a longer harness that is red (from red) and green (from the black). I'm assuming red goes to the + on the coil and green to the - on the coil?

    Vacuum advance usually goes to face the firewall, right? But the way this one came set up if I put the advance facing the firewall, then the timing pointer is facing the passenger wing. I'm assuming it just happened to be put together this way and that I should place the advance facing the firewall and then adjust the direction of the pointer? Or leave the pointer alone and install regardless of the direction of the advance?

    Any other tips or tricks before I get started? It's a Simon distributor from the UK BTW.

    Thanks!
    1966 IIa - ex-MOD, ex-FFR, ex-24v
    1997 Discovery SE7 - I'm empty inside without her
  • navydevildoc
    1st Gear
    • Feb 2009
    • 141

    #2
    Not sure about the markings, but yes, the red wire will go to the + terminal and black (or green) to the - terminal on the coil.
    2005 LR3
    1965 RHD Series IIA currently aka "The hope crusher"

    Comment

    • kevkon
      3rd Gear
      • Aug 2009
      • 364

      #3
      Red wire connects to the positive connector on the coil, the Black connects to the negative ( for neg ground systems).
      I think this distributor and the module is the same as BritPart.
      Make sure that the rotor is in the same orientation to the cap ( spark plug & cylinder) as the one you are removing. Also, some of these electronic points replacement modules/ distributors do not fare so well with certain coils. I believe it's a resistance issue. Maybe someone else has some better knowledge regarding the BritPart/Simon units.
      94 D-90 tdi
      72 Series III

      Comment

      • Nium
        4th Gear
        • Aug 2009
        • 400

        #4
        With the # 1 cylinder at TDC of the power stroke the rotor (timing pointer) should point at the #1 firing position of the dizzy cap. If it's 180 degress off remove the dizzy rotate the shaft to point at #1 and not at #4 and reinstall. Or just make #1 where the rotor points with # 1 cylinder at TDC.

        Make sure the timing marks are lined up and the engine is set to TDC for the #1 cylinder when installing dizzy.

        Cheers
        Walker
        1968 Series IIA-"Ronnie"
        88" SW, 2.25L Petrol, LHD

        Comment

        • scott
          Overdrive
          • Oct 2006
          • 1226

          #5
          i just learned with a pertronix drop into your old dizzy type e-ign doesn't work w/ solid spark plug wires. they like the carbon impregnated fiber spark plug wires and the red wire can go to any 12v source, not just the coil. when you're connecting it to the + low lead coil you are just connecting it to the 12v source your coi is hooked to
          '64 Series IIA 88 Canvas Tilt
          '68 Series IIA RHD Ambulance
          '76 Spitfire 1500
          '07 LR3 (Series Recovery Vehicle)

          Comment

          • SeriesShorty
            2nd Gear
            • Sep 2008
            • 275

            #6
            Thanks guys, does it matter which direction the vacuum advance is facing?

            I think I'm gonna have to take off my old timing pointer (from my old military shielded distributor) as the holes don't line up to fit the hold down bolt.
            1966 IIa - ex-MOD, ex-FFR, ex-24v
            1997 Discovery SE7 - I'm empty inside without her

            Comment

            • SeriesShorty
              2nd Gear
              • Sep 2008
              • 275

              #7
              This puppy only wants to go in 180 off.

              I've checked the green bible and the top drive coupler (engine side) should have the narrow segment facing towards the RH side of the engine (which I am going to assume they mean the passenger side) and aligned with #1.

              At TDC, the slot is aligned to #1, but the narrow segment is facing the LH side of the engine (the drivers side). So of course, when I put the distributor in with the drive dog aligned with the top drive coupler the rotor is pointing towards #4, so 180 out.

              Scratching my head.
              1966 IIa - ex-MOD, ex-FFR, ex-24v
              1997 Discovery SE7 - I'm empty inside without her

              Comment

              • kevkon
                3rd Gear
                • Aug 2009
                • 364

                #8
                Are you sure you are at TDC on the ignition stroke? If so, follow the manual regarding the slot and make sure the rotor is on the #1 cylinder position regardless of the location of the vacuum pot.
                94 D-90 tdi
                72 Series III

                Comment

                • SeriesShorty
                  2nd Gear
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 275

                  #9
                  Thanks for all of the help guys. Went back to the manual, checked everything over and did some tinkering and it's in and running. I feel kinda like Joan Crawford..."No more distributor points!" Doesn't quite have the same effect as wire hangers but ya get the point, pardon the pun.

                  Of course with the set up that I chose, I kinda cheated myself out of being able to pop in the old standard guts in the event of a malfunction in the electronic system. Oh well, that is why I have towing on my insurance policy.

                  Now to bypass the ballast since this thing is gonna want the full 12v.
                  1966 IIa - ex-MOD, ex-FFR, ex-24v
                  1997 Discovery SE7 - I'm empty inside without her

                  Comment

                  • kevkon
                    3rd Gear
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 364

                    #10
                    Glad to hear that. I know a lot of the Triumph guys use that distributor, I will be interested to see how it works out for you. You might consider a newer high voltage coil and upgrading the plug wires if you do.
                    94 D-90 tdi
                    72 Series III

                    Comment

                    Working...