Adjusting brake shoes on a Salisbury rear end, please see pics . .

[ScottT]

I replaced the brake cylinder and reinstalled the old shoes as they have so little wear but they are really toed out. I can't find or see any adjustments. I have tried adjusted them and reinstalled, all with the same result; toe out.
Any insight or help? Thanks.

[scatterling]

maybe this will help

http://www.expeditionlandrover.info/landRoverFAQ/FAQ_rearbrakes.htm

[rbonnett]

It looks to me like the springs are on the wrong side of the shoes. They should go on the back side - between the shoes and the backing plate. I'd bet having them on the outside is causing the toe out.

Course, they are much more of a pain to put on behind the shoes

[ScottT]

That would make sense.
In all honesty, how do you put install the shoes and the springs on with the spring on the back?

It looks to me like the springs are on the wrong side of the shoes. They should go on the back side - between the shoes and the backing plate. I'd bet having them on the outside is causing the toe out.

Course, they are much more of a pain to put on behind the shoes

[Moose]

I've found the easiest way (maybe the only way?) to install the shoes with the springs on the back is to lay the shoes on the floor and install the bottom spring between both shoes and the top spring on only one shoe. Now offer up the shoes from below the hub. Do not try to position the bottom of the shoes just yet. With the top of the shoes between the back of the hub and the wheel cyl., attach the top spring to the second shoe. Now carefully lever the bottom of the shoes onto the little block they rest on. Then position the top of one shoe into the slot in the wheel cyl. piston. Now the fun bit. Make sure the springs are still seated properly then carefully lever the second shoe into the slot in the piston. And hopefully, Ta da! I find I have to use a pair of channel lock pliers to grasp the top of the shoe to lever it onto the piston.

Of course, this is all much easier with the hub removed, but then that is a lot more work.

Good luck.

Brett

[Wallace]

That's a great step by step description of a complicated job. It doesn't get any easier - even after doing it many times.

[brucejohn]

The shoes don't look leading and trailing either. They both look the same, I think leading. The space between the 'pad' on each shoe should be different. Leading shoes have the 'pad' nearer the cylinder.

[TeriAnn]

The shoes don't look leading and trailing either. They both look the same, I think leading. The space between the 'pad' on each shoe should be different. Leading shoes have the 'pad' nearer the cylinder.

From the picture it looks like you have both trailing shoes on one side & I guess both leading shoes on the other. Each brake should have one of each.


Leading shoe toward the vehicle front

Here's how the springs fit

Salisbury, right side. Yes my Salisbury diff cover is painted pink.

When you have the shoes off you can see the snail cams. Pre adjust the cams so the pegs on the shoes are at the bottom of snail cams. Try to centre the shoes before applying the drum.

You have already been provided with the link to my how-to web page in the FAQ section of my web site.

[brucejohn]

Opps, I was only half right. Thanks TeriAnn, your site is awesome.

[rbonnett]

I've found the easiest way (maybe the only way?) to install the shoes with the springs on the back is to lay the shoes on the floor and install the bottom spring between both shoes and the top spring on only one shoe. Now offer up the shoes from below the hub. Do not try to position the bottom of the shoes just yet. With the top of the shoes between the back of the hub and the wheel cyl., attach the top spring to the second shoe. Now carefully lever the bottom of the shoes onto the little block they rest on. Then position the top of one shoe into the slot in the wheel cyl. piston. Now the fun bit. Make sure the springs are still seated properly then carefully lever the second shoe into the slot in the piston. And hopefully, Ta da! I find I have to use a pair of channel lock pliers to grasp the top of the shoe to lever it onto the piston.

Of course, this is all much easier with the hub removed, but then that is a lot more work.

Good luck.

Brett

This is the same method I use when the hubs are on. Just not enough room for my fat fingers to get back there. One thing I'll add - I use a bit of paper tape to hold the spring ends in the holes. They seem to really want to flop out until you have tension on everything.