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  • Apis Mellifera
    3rd Gear
    • Apr 2008
    • 386

    Diff pinion seals

    Any pitfalls/tricks to replacing the pinion oil seals with the diffs in situ?
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  • KevinNY
    4th Gear
    • Oct 2006
    • 484

    #2
    Some diffs have a removeable pinion seal housing which makes the swap a piece of cake. Look for 6, 7/16" bolts on the front of your 3rd.
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    • Sputnicker
      1st Gear
      • May 2009
      • 105

      #3
      I just did this in my Series II. Assuming you have the standard Rover differential, there is a removable housing that's already been described. To get that off, you first have to remove the driveshaft flange, which requires removing the large nut (with cotter pin) that holds it on the pinion shaft. This large nut needs to be torqued to 85 ft/lbs upon reassembly. There is also a gasket between the seal housing and the differential case. The improved seal I got from our hosts had two lips on the ID - one on either side (the original was a metal-cased rawhide seal with one lip). The improved seal also has an additional small rubber lip on the outside diameter of the seal, which gets pushed into the bore of the housing (providing a better seal between the outside of the seal and the housing). You need to be sure you press the seal into the housing until the seal bottoms out in the bore. The new seal was expensive ($15), but it looks like a big improvement over the original (which has always leaked on mine). Be careful not to lose any of those 7/16 bolts - they have BSA threads and smaller than normal heads and would be difficult to replace.

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      • kevin-ct
        3rd Gear
        • Oct 2006
        • 309

        #4
        Remember to look for a worn grove on the flange. If there is one you will need a new flange or a speedy sleeve from the host
        Kevin

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        • KevinNY
          4th Gear
          • Oct 2006
          • 484

          #5
          The flange is not that expensive and a good idea to replace considering the age of your original. That way the new seal is running on a new smooth surface.
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          • kevin-ct
            3rd Gear
            • Oct 2006
            • 309

            #6
            Originally posted by KevinNY
            The flange is not that expensive and a good idea to replace considering the age of your original. That way the new seal is running on a new smooth surface.

            Kevin, are you heading up to GF next weekend? if you need any parts from Paul, I can bring them with me.

            Kevin
            Kevin

            04 XJ8
            92 RRC
            02 Benz E320

            95 RRC (sold 5/10)
            72 Series 3 (sold 4/10)
            70 Series 2A (sold 6/10)
            Morgan +8 (sold 8/09)
            90 Jetta (308k miles) (sold 5/11)
            72 Triumph Stag (sold 1/08

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            • KevinNY
              4th Gear
              • Oct 2006
              • 484

              #7
              I'm good thanks. May head over for a few hours on Saturday after I get my PS leak fixed.
              The Goat, 2.8 Daihatsu Td, '73 coil conversion

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              • Apis Mellifera
                3rd Gear
                • Apr 2008
                • 386

                #8
                Originally posted by Sputnicker
                I just did this in my Series II. Assuming you have the standard Rover differential, there is a removable housing that's already been described.
                I'm guessing this feature was deleted for the SIII. This is what I'm dealing with:

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                • jac04
                  Overdrive
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 1884

                  #9
                  ^^ Correct. You will need to pry the old seal out after removing the pinion flange. It's kind of a PITA. I did both on my SIII, and found that I needed to replace one of the pinion flanges.
                  The only tricky part is getting the mud shield back in the correct position if you are replacing a flange.

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                  • Apis Mellifera
                    3rd Gear
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 386

                    #10
                    I finally got the rear pinion seal replaced today. I was expecting the pinion nut to be difficult to remove, but when I removed the driveshaft, I found the nut loose. Loose as in I could flip the nut and it would spin loose or tight. The cotter pin was still in place so I'm curious what could wear enough the loosen the nut. The seal was the original leather part so I don't think the PO replaced it and didn't torque the nut.

                    Any ideas?

                    The good news is the test drive after reassembly was a success. No more leaking oil and the growl from the back is mysteriously gone...
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                    • jac04
                      Overdrive
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 1884

                      #11
                      I found the same thing with the loose nut(s) on mine as well. I just torqued to spec at re-assembly.

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