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  • Cutter
    4th Gear
    • Feb 2009
    • 455

    Towing 109 advice needed

    Hi all,

    I have to tow my sIII 109 up to Eliot Me to be worked on at Overland Engineering- its about a 2 hour drive on 95 from RI. I could drive it but as the main bearings are knocking I'd prefer to tow it to avoid any further damage. I was thinking of renting a Uhaul pickup or van and two wheeled towing trailer and pulling it up. Any thoughts on this? Its considerably cheaper than hiring a tow service and I'd prefer to spend that money on the overhaul, but I've never towed a vehicle in this manner.

    Also, anything special I should do to the rover prior to the tow?

    Thanks!
    _________________________________________
    1986 3.5l 110 SW Austrian Feurwehr
  • morgant
    1st Gear
    • Jun 2009
    • 170

    #2
    I've found that you can get pretty good estimates from providers on uShip. It's like eBay for shipping, so the same things you'd want to look from an eBay seller (like good history, rating, and fully insured) should also be looked for on uShip.

    Just another option.
    rikuwoiku — to travel overland.
    1982 Series III 88" (RHD w/2.8L Daihatsu diesel)
    2002 Discovery II SE

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    • LaneRover
      Overdrive
      • Oct 2006
      • 1743

      #3
      If you do it with the 2 wheel dolly I would pull the rear drive prop shaft as a just in case. That way you know that the transfer case won't slip into gear in the middle of the tow and cause more problems.

      Remember that u-haul charges a per mile charge in addition to the rental charge - at least the last time I checked a few weeks ago they did. You would also have to pay that mileage charge both coming and going.

      Most tow charges are per loaded mile.
      1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
      1965 109 SW - nearly running well
      1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
      1969 109 P-UP

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      • LC_rover
        Low Range
        • Oct 2009
        • 61

        #4
        Originally posted by LaneRover
        If you do it with the 2 wheel dolly I would pull the rear drive prop shaft as a just in case. That way you know that the transfer case won't slip into gear in the middle of the tow and cause more problems.

        .
        This happened to me. Not good. If the wheels are on the ground, pull the the drive shafts. It only takes a few minutes and it will save you from a possible disaster.

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        • TJR
          2nd Gear
          • Dec 2006
          • 279

          #5
          Originally posted by LC_rover
          This happened to me. Not good. If the wheels are on the ground, pull the the drive shafts. It only takes a few minutes and it will save you from a possible disaster.
          ... Or pull the two rear axle shafts and seal back up. Then the diff doesn't spin either.

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          • Nium
            4th Gear
            • Aug 2009
            • 400

            #6
            Just get a U-haul car trailer. Driving a trailer wouldn't be much different then driving a 2 wheel dolly with vehicle attached. Tell U-haul that you can get a better price at a competitor and they'll give you a price break. If your AAA price break too. Plus with a trailer you don't need to disconnect anything: drive on, drive off done.
            Walker
            1968 Series IIA-"Ronnie"
            88" SW, 2.25L Petrol, LHD

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            • Cutter
              4th Gear
              • Feb 2009
              • 455

              #7
              Well uhaul is pretty expensive now as they require me to rent a 14' truck minimum, so I tried out the uship thing. I don't know anyone with a 1 ton truck here so I can't just rent a trailer.

              good pointers on the axle, I think I'd go for a full trailer if I went that route.
              _________________________________________
              1986 3.5l 110 SW Austrian Feurwehr

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              • TCapelle
                1st Gear
                • Mar 2008
                • 115

                #8
                I pulled my 109 on a uhaul trailer and pulled it with my semi tired 90 RRC.
                The uhaul trailers have surge brakes so as long as you take it easy you would be just fine with a truck to pull it.

                My uhaul trailer was $50 one way- Find a uhaul place at your drop off...

                The next time I tried to drive my truck 4 hours across WI with an "issue" and ended up sleeping in a farmers filed broke down....The coyotes almost got me

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                • Cutter
                  4th Gear
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 455

                  #9
                  The uhaul place won't even rent me the trailer without an f350 or equivalent sized truck to tow the rover. They seemed fairly strict about it. I seem to be getting fairly good response to the uship site, though I wanted to arrive with the truck at overland to go over the issues. In the end not a big deal. The bigger concern is shippers tend to freak out when they see the 7' 4" height when the pick it up despite trying to make it clear that the truck is TALL on the phone or in writing...when I bought it they charged me extra after they had it on the truck...some would say it was a breach of contract but I just wanted the damn rover so I paid.
                  _________________________________________
                  1986 3.5l 110 SW Austrian Feurwehr

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                  • daveb
                    5th Gear
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 513

                    #10
                    Diff doesn't care if it spins. that is what it is supposed to do. However a manual gearbox that is left in neutral and run from the wheels will wreck the mainshaft and everything that rides on it as it spins and the layshaft (that normally throws oil everywhere) is locked by the clutch and engine. which is why Land Rover tells you to leave the towed vehicle in 4th with the transfer in neutral.

                    Originally posted by TJR
                    ... Or pull the two rear axle shafts and seal back up. Then the diff doesn't spin either.
                    A Land Rover would never turn up to collect an Oscar. It'd be far too busy doing something important, somewhere, for someone."


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                    • SafeAirOne
                      Overdrive
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 3435

                      #11
                      Quite a few tool rental-type places rent tow dollies and sometimes car trailers as well. Most of the places I've rented them from don't really ask too many questions and don't have a whole lot of rules/restrictions for renting either. Of course, you usually have to return the stuff to the place you got it (no one-way trips).
                      --Mark

                      1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

                      0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
                      (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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                      • chester rides again
                        1st Gear
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 116

                        #12
                        experienced tower

                        towed my truck back from canada on a u-haul trailer. used brother-in-laws truck. went about 360 miles with it and dropped it off. ended up being a few hundred bucks.

                        ask to rent the truck for the weekend around town and drop it off at the same place. tell them you are using it to move stuff and a new toyota truck or something that will show up in their computer system. a 109" won't be in their system. it just fits on the flatbed and depending on the tires you have, you may need to let some air out to get the straps around the wheels.

                        they may be on to you at the one u-haul store so you might need to find another.
                        '68 109 3 door with multiple personalities
                        '03 Ford Excursion 7.3 diesel
                        '07 Porsche Carrera S Cabriolet

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                        • scott
                          Overdrive
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 1226

                          #13
                          i bough a tow bar from uhaul, $140. reinforced the mounts so that it was bolt not just to the bumber but to the frame horns too. put it 4th, tranfercase in nuteral and drug my 88 behind the wife's lr3 for over 800 miles. the only time my 88 has ever gone over 90 mph (passing a 18 wheeler). only damage was the rubber boot on the rear prop shaft slip joint sort of exploded.
                          '64 Series IIA 88 Canvas Tilt
                          '68 Series IIA RHD Ambulance
                          '76 Spitfire 1500
                          '07 LR3 (Series Recovery Vehicle)

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                          • TJR
                            2nd Gear
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 279

                            #14
                            Originally posted by daveb
                            Diff doesn't care if it spins. that is what it is supposed to do. .
                            Yes you are right, especially about the tranny lubrication concern.

                            My point was pulling the axle shafts makes the rear basically a trailer axle. Then there is no need to pull the rear prop shaft or worry about what gear it is in or not in.

                            You could also just pull one axle out on an open Diff and let the side gears spin , just like an early Jeep Cherokee (XJ) axle disconnect.

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                            • Bostonian1976
                              5th Gear
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 750

                              #15
                              what are you driving? As long as it's adequate and won't be dangerous to pull the 109, just get a decent trailer from UHAUL by selecting your vehicle and a 60's Jeep as the vehicle being towed. Worked for me with my 'Yota.

                              I'll use my standard picture that I've posted many times before for this

                              '67 sort of station wagon (limestone), '65 gray hardtop, '63 blue Station Wagon, '64 limestone station wagon in pieces

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