Series IIa or Series III?

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  • brucejohn
    2nd Gear
    • Jul 2009
    • 215

    Series IIa or Series III?

    Kevkon brought up an interesting point on the 'Where do I start??' thread I have been wondering about:
    Originally posted by kevkon
    On a series III there are a lot of little things that are difficult or super expensive to replace, especially at the dash.
    I have an 82 Series III 109 (titled) with a reasonable body, engine and transmission that really needs to have the bulkhead restored or replaced on an early sixties IIa (no title) chassis. Now stashed behind my barn sits an okay IIa 109 body, bulkhead, engine and transmission (minus the bell housing).

    My plan has been to enjoy driving the III while I attempt to refurbish the IIa body. It seems folks gravitate toward the IIa's more than the III's.

    Is it worth it to truly refurbish the III or is it just too expensive in the end for a noob like myself, so I should stick with the IIa?
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    the IIa.
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    the III.
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    find another chassis and do'em both.
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    Whoa. I'm afraid those heaps aren't worth anything. I would be willing to help you out, though.
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    1982 SIII 109 RHD petrol project.
  • Lalo88DK
    1st Gear
    • Nov 2009
    • 116

    #2
    I'd go for both of them

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    • crankin
      5th Gear
      • Jul 2008
      • 696

      #3
      You could really argue that restoring a SIIa could be more expensive then a SIII. It really all depends on how deep you want to go with the restoration. My SIII dash was patched and recovered, although it is not 100% correct looking it is not going to hack the purist at heart off….and it only cost $150 to do it.

      There are some subtle differences between the IIa’s and the III’s that cause each owner to love them for various reasons. For instance with me… a guy I know has a 1967 IIa…and I hate him because he slept with my wife….so, I went with a SIII (joking…only joking! It was my girlfriend).


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      Clint Rankin - 1972 SIII SWB

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      • kevkon
        3rd Gear
        • Aug 2009
        • 364

        #4
        It seems to me that Series III specific parts are harder to find, but it does depend on whether it's LHD or RHD. I can find tons of RHD parts on EBay UK, but LHD parts are a different story. Look at the import numbers for the different versions and compatibility. I recovered my dash as well and I used a much higher quality fabric than OEM. There are a lot of little things though that are just tough to find.
        94 D-90 tdi
        72 Series III

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        • SafeAirOne
          Overdrive
          • Apr 2008
          • 3435

          #5
          Don't think that a SIII is worse than a IIA maintenance-wise. It isn't. On the SIIA, there are a lot of things that are equally as difficult or super-expensive to replace. You will have some extra minor work to do to access the rear of the instrument panel/ignition switch, but otherwise there's not much else to be concerned about. Of course, you'll have dual power brakes, better rear axle assembly and newer stuff on the SIII, otherwise, it's pretty much the same.

          I think the choice should be "which rover is nearest to being roadable." Other considerations are unnecessary as the vehicles are essentially the same.
          --Mark

          1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

          0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
          (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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          • TeriAnn
            Overdrive
            • Nov 2006
            • 1087

            #6
            Originally posted by brucejohn
            I have an 82 Series III 109 (titled) with a reasonable body, engine and transmission that really needs to have the bulkhead restored or replaced
            I believe I know where there is a SIII bulkhead that is coming up for sale in California if you know of a way to get it to you.
            -

            Teriann Wakeman_________
            Flagstaff, AZ.




            1960 Land Rover Dormobile, owned since 1978

            My Land Rover web site

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            • brucejohn
              2nd Gear
              • Jul 2009
              • 215

              #7
              Originally posted by TeriAnn
              I believe I know where there is a SIII bulkhead that is coming up for sale in California if you know of a way to get it to you.
              TeriAnn please PM me. I have family in both Northern and Southern California and will be out there for Christmas. Thank you.
              1982 SIII 109 RHD petrol project.

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              • leafsprung
                Overdrive
                • Nov 2006
                • 1008

                #8
                sell both, get a series one

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                • ivarra
                  Low Range
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 66

                  #9
                  Originally posted by crankin
                  …and I hate him because he slept with my wife….so, I went with a SIII (joking…only joking! It was my girlfriend).
                  Oh, so your girlfriend slept with your wife? What happened to the guy with the 67 11A then?

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                  • brucejohn
                    2nd Gear
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 215

                    #10
                    Originally posted by leafsprung
                    sell both, get a series one
                    I should have added that as an option; certainly didn't mean to leave anyone out. =)
                    1982 SIII 109 RHD petrol project.

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                    • crankin
                      5th Gear
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 696

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ivarra
                      Oh, so your girlfriend slept with your wife? What happened to the guy with the 67 11A then?
                      Ha... this is one of my stories...not amcordo's. I'm not that lucky...


                      Birmabright Brotherhood

                      Take the vow, join the brotherhood!


                      Clint Rankin - 1972 SIII SWB

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                      • brucejohn
                        2nd Gear
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 215

                        #12
                        What did happen to the guy with the 67 11A then? It appears he refurbished it.

                        So far most forum commentators clearly prefer refurbishing a IIa. I like the both option myself. How to get my better half on board? Maybe if I paint it her color?

                        Not many strong Series III opinions.
                        1982 SIII 109 RHD petrol project.

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                        • kevkon
                          3rd Gear
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 364

                          #13
                          I would definitely prefer the Series III. It's basically the same as it's predecessors only more road use friendly. They are all a step in the progression of the design. Of course there is that metal vs plastic dash silliness to contend with.
                          94 D-90 tdi
                          72 Series III

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                          • Leslie
                            5th Gear
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 613

                            #14
                            I voted both.

                            The SIIa is 'classic'. As my SII is right-handed, w/ no top or doors, it's fun tooling around in the summer, w/ everyone thinking that the lab is driving.

                            But, if I was heading out the door to go four-wheelin', if I was going to be using it for a back-up commuter, if I was going to head out on a snowy day, I'd be in the SIII hands-down, everytime. Not just the hardtop, or a more effective heater, but easier shifting, and, because of that plastic dash, a modicum more of protection over a bare SII/SIIa dash....

                            It's nice having the two, I'm not gonna get rid of either one, but, if I had to choose, I'd have to keep the SIII.....
                            -L

                            '72 SIII SW 88"
                            '60 SII 88" RHD

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                            • ignotus
                              2nd Gear
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 237

                              #15
                              Hmmm

                              Interesting to note; over 400 views and 25 votes to the poll.

                              Do like my friend and put a series 2a bulkhead on the series 3. Then you can fix em both up!
                              1960 "bitsa" 88--Ignotus
                              1960 109, 200TDI
                              rebuild blog; http://poppageno.blogspot.com/

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