how about detroitlocker and 24 spline foe rear 2a 109 anybody have any exp?

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  • glbft1
    1st Gear
    • Dec 2006
    • 149

    how about detroitlocker and 24 spline foe rear 2a 109 anybody have any exp?

    well we got pricing on a salisbury think a 24 spline upgrade and a detroit might be the way to go on a 109 what do these drive like in rovers? is it dangerous? trying to get the most for what money I can spend( without the wife making me live it it....)
    Thanks for all the advice and info...... merry christmas to all
    Greg
  • Les Parker
    RN Sales Team - Super Moderator
    • May 2006
    • 2020

    #2
    Greg,

    Beware the Detroits, you want to round a corner and they may not let you !!

    Les Parker
    Tech. Support and Parts Specialist
    Rovers North Inc.

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    • yorker
      Overdrive
      • Nov 2006
      • 1635

      #3
      Detroits take some getting used to- some people love them some hate them. Unless you are doing hard core rock crawling I'd go with a Detroit Truetrac- I think they'd suffice for 90% of Land Rover owners.

      1965 SIIa 88",1975 Ex-MOD 109/Ambulance, 1989 RRC, blah, blah, blah...

      Land Rover UK Forums

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      • Linus Tremaine
        1st Gear
        • Jan 2007
        • 178

        #4
        sucky

        I had one in my dormobile. I hated it. The snapping is also very hard on the series gear box. Perhaps why I broke a layshaft. Always popping and causing bucking on turns.
        I dont recommend a detroit locker.
        1968 Land Rover "Park Ranger" camper **SOLD**
        1967 109 **SOLD**
        NADA Dormobile #601 **SOLD**
        1965 IIA 88 2.5NA Diesel
        1963 Mercedes 300se
        1975 Volvo C303
        KJ6AQK

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        • Blueboy
          1st Gear
          • Apr 2008
          • 153

          #5
          ahh, the Detroit locker versus other model discussion.

          on other sites, this topic has filled pages upon pages with folks strong opinions supporting both sides.

          glbft1, you really need to think about how much traction aid you want and the final goal.

          0 help = an open diff like the Sals with stronger 24 spline shafts either LR or other manuf

          some help = Trutrac with stronger 24 spline shafts either LR or other manuf

          locked help = Detroit mechanical; always present or an ARB; selectable operation with stronger 24 spline shafts either LR or other manuf

          personally for whats it worth, I've always had ARBs because I like the control of being able to be locked or open depending on the condition for my more off-highway oriented Rovers.

          my 109 has a Sals with std LR 24 spline shafts or basically a NAS 110 set-up, yet, Blueboy only sees moderate off-highway use so even with the V8, this is robust enough.

          Jaime
          One Life Live It

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          • solihull109
            1st Gear
            • May 2007
            • 191

            #6
            I think for what you want to do, and the fact that you live in Maine with icy roads, a selectable locker(ARB) is the best way to go, however, they're not cheap.

            I think the Sals. rear might be a little overkill for what you want to do. A well built rear will hold up fine, and you won't be giving up the ground clearance. A salisbury axle hangs low, especially if running near stock size tires.

            Give me a ring Greg.....
            knowledge without experience is just information.... Mark Twain



            www.downeastcoachworks.com

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            • JimCT
              5th Gear
              • Nov 2006
              • 518

              #7
              Detroit locker

              The one time we laid the ambulance over if I had a locking rear axle I could have driven out of the situation. And it I had an ARB I woudl never have had it locked and at the point I decided a Detroit in the Salisbury was the way to go. I would not sorry much about the loss of clearance, what you hit with the Salisbury is pretty robust. I do think the weight of the ambulance negates the quirkyness of the locker, thought I have also heard that the newest one are a bit softer in engagement. Will let you know how it goes. Jim
              1968 battlefield ambulance/camper
              1963 Unimog Radio box
              1995 LWB RR

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              • solihull109
                1st Gear
                • May 2007
                • 191

                #8
                Originally posted by Les Parker
                Greg,

                Beware the Detroits, you want to round a corner and they may not let you !!

                That is completely an opinion. I've driven with a Detroit in the rear, and yes, it's a different driving style. However, once you adjust to it, they are 100% predictable.
                knowledge without experience is just information.... Mark Twain



                www.downeastcoachworks.com

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                • solihull109
                  1st Gear
                  • May 2007
                  • 191

                  #9
                  Originally posted by JimCT
                  The one time we laid the ambulance over if I had a locking rear axle I could have driven out of the situation. And it I had an ARB I woudl never have had it locked and at the point I decided a Detroit in the Salisbury was the way to go. I would not sorry much about the loss of clearance, what you hit with the Salisbury is pretty robust. I do think the weight of the ambulance negates the quirkyness of the locker, thought I have also heard that the newest one are a bit softer in engagement. Will let you know how it goes. Jim
                  ?? The ARB engages in 1/20th of a second. You don't need to drive 3 feet for it to work. You flip the switch and you're locked.
                  knowledge without experience is just information.... Mark Twain



                  www.downeastcoachworks.com

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                  • JimCT
                    5th Gear
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 518

                    #10
                    falling over....

                    It took less time than that to lose it on the side hill, probably would not have had time to flip the switch kind of had both hands on the wheel!
                    1968 battlefield ambulance/camper
                    1963 Unimog Radio box
                    1995 LWB RR

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                    • solihull109
                      1st Gear
                      • May 2007
                      • 191

                      #11
                      Originally posted by JimCT
                      It took less time than that to lose it on the side hill, probably would not have had time to flip the switch kind of had both hands on the wheel!
                      .....
                      knowledge without experience is just information.... Mark Twain



                      www.downeastcoachworks.com

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                      • glbft1
                        1st Gear
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 149

                        #12
                        well we have decided to upgrade to the 24 spline with a arb thanks for all the advice

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                        • yorker
                          Overdrive
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 1635

                          #13
                          Wait a minute- I thought the Salisbury swap was too expensive? Or did you mean the Salisbury+ locker was too expensive an option?
                          1965 SIIa 88",1975 Ex-MOD 109/Ambulance, 1989 RRC, blah, blah, blah...

                          Land Rover UK Forums

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                          • Blueboy
                            1st Gear
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 153

                            #14
                            well we have decided to upgrade to the 24 spline with a arb thanks for all the advice
                            great combo - now just make sure the ARB is set-up properly.


                            Jaime
                            One Life Live It

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                            • Tim Smith
                              Overdrive
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 1504

                              #15
                              For what it's worth, I replaced my ARB which fell apart due to SPOT install error and decided to go with the Trutak. I'm actually much happier with the Trutrak because I don't have to make a decision whether I need it or not and there's no more air line to worry about.

                              They are all good options really but you should call Bill at GBR first. Not that ARB is a bad option. It's just that he can describe the different setups much better than a layman such as myself.

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