After finding that my "breakfast" (I know, I know) wasn't properly grounded and was sparking when I closed the hood....I connected a ground wire and all is well and my headlights work again. My question is why do they need a ground? Shouldn't the wires be able to feed into the headlights without needing the whole piece to be grounded?
Why Does the Breakfast Need To Be Grounded?
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Why Does the Breakfast Need To Be Grounded?
'67 sort of station wagon (limestone), '65 gray hardtop, '63 blue Station Wagon, '64 limestone station wagon in piecesTags: None -
I believe it is because the headlights are grounded to the breakfast itself thus the reason why the breakfast needs to be grounded.
LaneRover1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
1965 109 SW - nearly running well
1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
1969 109 P-UP
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makes sense. still an odd setup! I ended up just taking the loose ground wire that I found and screwing it onto the battery cover (the metal tray that keeps down the battery with two nuts). definitely a temporary fix but works for now'67 sort of station wagon (limestone), '65 gray hardtop, '63 blue Station Wagon, '64 limestone station wagon in piecesComment
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Originally posted by LaneRoverI believe it is because the headlights are grounded to the breakfast itself thus the reason why the breakfast needs to be grounded.
LaneRover61 II 109" Pickup (Restomod, 350 small block, TR4050)
66 IIA 88" Station Wagon (sold)
66 IIA 109" Pickup (Restomod, 5MGE, R380)
67 IIA 109" NADA Wagon (sold)
88, 2.5TD 110 RHD non-hicap pickup
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I unfortunately was banging on the side fender everytime the lights went out, thinking there was a loose wire. This was at night and I didn't have a good place to pull over and fix it. Well.......I banged it so much that some bondo fell out of a late-IIA sidemarker hole that shouldn't have been there (mine's a '67). Ha. So now I have a fender with a hole that I didn't even know was thereLast edited by Bostonian1976; 03-14-2007, 07:56 AM.'67 sort of station wagon (limestone), '65 gray hardtop, '63 blue Station Wagon, '64 limestone station wagon in piecesComment
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Yes the first order of owning any Series truck is taking a rubber hammer and finding all that bondo, I mean what's the point a 3 year old can bang out a bent panel on a series and spray it with a little paint.1967 MGB convertible
1966 SIIa 88 Softop Perkins Prima Powered
1964 SIIa 109 Rosenbauer TLF
1976 1ton Rapier missle Sankey trailer
1996 BMW 1100 GS
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Originally posted by LaneRoverI believe it is because the headlights are grounded to the breakfast itself thus the reason why the breakfast needs to be grounded.
The reason I hit reply is that if your engine is not properly grounded the coolant conducts electricity from the engine to the radiator, through your grounded radiator bulkhead back to battery ground. This causes metal erosion and deposition at dissimilar metal junctions along the path and at metal to coolant surfaces.
So now that you have a grounded radiator bulkhead, may I suggest that you verify that you have at least one clean, tight good high current ground connection between the battery and engine.
On my engine the same connector that secures my battery ground connector to the frame also secures my engine ground strap to the frame.
Just a thought to head off a possible future followed by-
Teriann Wakeman_________
Flagstaff, AZ.
1960 Land Rover Dormobile, owned since 1978
My Land Rover web site
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Originally posted by TeriAnnSo now that you have a grounded radiator bulkhead, may I suggest that you verify that you have at least one clean, tight good high current ground connection between the battery and engine.
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Originally posted by jp-No, no, no. The breakfast was used by Lucas as a grounding point because it provides a more direct path for shorts to occur. If the ground had been placed on the frame, the lights might operate properly, thereby negating the Lucas flicker effect.1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
1965 109 SW - nearly running well
1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
1969 109 P-UP
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Originally posted by TeriAnnDecades ago I rerouted all the front light grounds to the frame.61 II 109" Pickup (Restomod, 350 small block, TR4050)
66 IIA 88" Station Wagon (sold)
66 IIA 109" Pickup (Restomod, 5MGE, R380)
67 IIA 109" NADA Wagon (sold)
88, 2.5TD 110 RHD non-hicap pickup
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Originally posted by fruitpunchYes the first order of owning any Series truck is taking a rubber hammer and finding all that bondo, I mean what's the point a 3 year old can bang out a bent panel on a series and spray it with a little paint.61 II 109" Pickup (Restomod, 350 small block, TR4050)
66 IIA 88" Station Wagon (sold)
66 IIA 109" Pickup (Restomod, 5MGE, R380)
67 IIA 109" NADA Wagon (sold)
88, 2.5TD 110 RHD non-hicap pickup
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Originally posted by jp-Cheater.
I've been using this set up for over 5 years now and have not been flashed by oncoming cars thinking I have my brights on. The IPF low beam cut off is that good.
I feel ever so much more enlightened
Of course if I seek even greater enlightenment, I have four Halla 3000's hanging off the bottom front of my roof rack-
Teriann Wakeman_________
Flagstaff, AZ.
1960 Land Rover Dormobile, owned since 1978
My Land Rover web site
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Originally posted by Tim SmithI thought 12 volts wouldn't conduct across water so you couldn't ground out that way. Or if you do get a grounding effect at least you won't do more than simple electrolysis to the water.
Is that not the case?
A good engine ground is very important as is a good ground for your headlamps.-
Teriann Wakeman_________
Flagstaff, AZ.
1960 Land Rover Dormobile, owned since 1978
My Land Rover web site
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