Series III and more leg room

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  • Sputnicker
    1st Gear
    • May 2009
    • 105

    #16
    I'm 6'6" and have had my 88 for 35 years. It's a very uncomfortable drive, but bearable. The key is to stop frequently (while you can still move), which forces you to take your time and enjoy the journey. If I'm in a hurry to get somewhere, I don't take the Land Rover.

    I don't know of any way of improving the driving position in an 88 because of the bulkhead. Many 109s don't have the bulkhead and would be easier to modify. Reducing the height of the seat cushion helps with the visibility, but makes the knee-angle even more acute. It also eliminates some of the cushioning, which really comes in handy whilst 4-wheeling in a leaf-sprung relic.

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    • marsjess
      Low Range
      • Jan 2010
      • 10

      #17
      I'm 6'4" and its to small

      I just had to have an 88" series and bought one before driving it. I still love it but I have thought about moving the aft bulkhead. I can live with the cramped leg room but hunching over to see out the window is getting on my nerves.

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      • LaneRover
        Overdrive
        • Oct 2006
        • 1743

        #18
        Originally posted by marsjess
        I just had to have an 88" series and bought one before driving it. I still love it but I have thought about moving the aft bulkhead. I can live with the cramped leg room but hunching over to see out the window is getting on my nerves.
        Take the top off!
        1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
        1965 109 SW - nearly running well
        1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
        1969 109 P-UP

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        • lstrvr
          Low Range
          • Oct 2008
          • 24

          #19
          Weighing in, literally. I am 6'4" and 275lb, and cannot fit comfortably in my friends 109's, but they can hardly reach the pedals in mine. If you are "building" your truck, there is a lot you can do for improvement. For my 109, I repositioned the steering wheel when I performed the power steering conversion. This moved it up off my knees and in a little more providing more than enough space. I also "notched" my rear bulkhead to allow the seat back to move back, and notched the seatbox flange to allow the bottom cushion to move farther back as well. My seat cushion is mounted directly to the seatbox allowing it to be as low as possible.

          I find that the seating position in my truck is comfortable enough for extended travel and am always impressed with how fresh I feel after a days drive in it. We did a trip up to Alaska last year on a tight schedule, and spent an average of over 13 hours a day driving with no discontent at all.

          My only complaint is trying to see out the windshield at a traffic light although most of this problem was solved by going back to the original LR springs on the rear. My 4-leaf Heystees sat ridiculously high in the back severely compounding the problem. I am planning on building a custom seat box that will be cut low on the drivers side allowing for a suspension equipped seat base that will be further back and lower than the current position. I was lucky enough to source from work a set of C-130 Hercules Pilot and Co-pilot seat cushions that fit the bill perfectly for that series look. Funny enough, their dimensions are almost exactly that of the original series cushions, just a bit higher in the back.

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          • yorker
            Overdrive
            • Nov 2006
            • 1635

            #20
            Originally posted by 109 Pretender
            Spencer,

            ...most British and old Japanese vehicles are too narrow/short in the footwell or not tall enough in the cab to be truly comfortable.
            I don't know- if you swap back and forth between an 88" and a ca. 1974 Toyota FJ40 the difference is night and day. The FJ40 almost feels "normal" as compared to the seating position in an 88" I'm 6'2" and i can deal witht he Series ok but I am used to it- My father and brother who are similar in size absolutely hate driving my Series trucks because of the seating.

            The RRC seems too small for me. I don't know why or where but even with all the adjustments to the seat it still is wrong for me.

            I guess what it comes down to is how much you are willing to turn a blind eye to for the sake of driving a Series.

            In any event it beats walking.
            1965 SIIa 88",1975 Ex-MOD 109/Ambulance, 1989 RRC, blah, blah, blah...

            Land Rover UK Forums

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            • yorker
              Overdrive
              • Nov 2006
              • 1635

              #21
              Originally posted by lstrvr

              My only complaint is trying to see out the windshield at a traffic light .

              That drives me nuts in most cars I drive, I need a periscope or some sort of mirror to see the traffic lights. I always have to scrunch down to see them. Sometimes I just end up looking at the reflection on the hood.
              1965 SIIa 88",1975 Ex-MOD 109/Ambulance, 1989 RRC, blah, blah, blah...

              Land Rover UK Forums

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              • SalemRover
                3rd Gear
                • Aug 2007
                • 310

                #22
                Originally posted by yorker
                Sometimes I just end up looking at the reflection on the hood.
                That is one shiny tire!

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                • Wander
                  2nd Gear
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 260

                  #23
                  I think we may have scared Spencer off LR's guys.

                  Several of you mentioned not being able to see stop lights. There is a prism decal that you can stick to the inside of your windscreen that will refract the light from the stop light and allow you to see it go from red to green without having to see the actual light. This is a problem with MINI Coopers too due to their upright windscreen-I think FJC's also have this problem. I can't remember where to get them but I think they are fairly easy to find. I'll do some digging.

                  Here it is...http://hhrboutique.com/items/hhr-int...ism-detail.htm
                  64 IIa 88
                  94 Discovery
                  06 Toyota 4R (DD)

                  ~Matt
                  --------------------------------------------
                  "Not all who wander are lost"~Tolkein

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                  • yorker
                    Overdrive
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 1635

                    #24
                    I remember someone on the LRO list mentioned those prism's years ago- I never bothered to find one but man- I have been tempted at times.
                    1965 SIIa 88",1975 Ex-MOD 109/Ambulance, 1989 RRC, blah, blah, blah...

                    Land Rover UK Forums

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                    • yorker
                      Overdrive
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 1635

                      #25
                      Originally posted by SalemRover
                      That is one shiny tire!

                      ha! needless to say the shiny hood thing doesn't work in my series rovers!!
                      1965 SIIa 88",1975 Ex-MOD 109/Ambulance, 1989 RRC, blah, blah, blah...

                      Land Rover UK Forums

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                      • Andrew IIA
                        3rd Gear
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 327

                        #26



                        I also recall a flat stick-on prism thingy for the windscreen; and some have said they use a small round wide-angle mirror on the their bonnet-mounted spare tire.
                        Andrew
                        '63 SIIA 88" SW

                        http://hungrynaturalist.blogspot.com/

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                        • yorker
                          Overdrive
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 1635

                          #27








                          1965 SIIa 88",1975 Ex-MOD 109/Ambulance, 1989 RRC, blah, blah, blah...

                          Land Rover UK Forums

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                          • robert wood
                            Low Range
                            • May 2009
                            • 37

                            #28
                            leg room

                            Well I'm 6'6 and have been driving series since the sixties. I never think much about the leg room. Longest trip I ever did was when I drove from Vancouver to New York - container ship to Rotterdam - and down to Italy where I worked for a year. And a side trip to Syria.

                            My spine remains flexible but I have hearing loss as a result. Ray

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                            • Spenser
                              Low Range
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 12

                              #29
                              Sorry, no didnt scare me away yet! The periscope issue is kind of funny though, I have the same problem with my Jeep Commander, similar small upright windshield. That is where the sunroof comes in handy! I will continue the search, have my eyes on one locally, waiting for the email back to go visit it. And the Tamayama 130 build did catch my eye, that was, or still is for sale but is WAY above what I was thinking about spending. As always, thank you one and all, and will report back as things progress, or if surgey to shorten my spine is successful!

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                              • Wander
                                2nd Gear
                                • Jan 2010
                                • 260

                                #30
                                Now your talking! It's not a problem with the Rover, it's a problem with you.

                                Good luck with the search, check back often and let us know what you are looking at. I really enjoy the rearch/search part of the process and enjoy it even more when it's other peoples money!
                                64 IIa 88
                                94 Discovery
                                06 Toyota 4R (DD)

                                ~Matt
                                --------------------------------------------
                                "Not all who wander are lost"~Tolkein

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