Anyone Want to Tell Me Why This is 20k?

[fruitpunch]

Military? I don't think so.

A cheap knock off perhaps. Light configuration is inconsistent with military rovers. Front bumper is missing overriders. Rear crossmember is not square.

Hold.... Military does not have to mean UK MOD.... and if LHD, I did not look there are plenty of options of countries that did not use silly overriders or square very easily bendable rear x-members. Dutch or Belgian, German BGS, Danish Defense Forces, Swiss Military....just to name a few. But then I must agree it seems this is a build rover judging from wolf wheels, front bumper and other extras.

[yorker]

I didn't realize they had a bunch of Series Rovers:

http://www.copleymotorcars.com/land_rover5_3.html

1965, Land Rover Series IIa 109
Exterior color Marine Green
Interior color black
Mileage 66,000
Price $19,800.00





1954, Land Rover Series I Fire Tk
Exterior color Portofino Red
Interior color grey
Mileage 5,300
Price $19,800.00




1965, Land Rover Series II
Exterior color Flat Green
Interior color grey
Mileage 54,600
Price $19,800.00



See a trend here?

ok so this one bucks the trend:

1973, Land Rover Series III 88
Exterior color Pastel Green
Interior color grey
Mileage 86,000
Price $5,600.00

[jp-]

Now that SI Fire Engine is probably worth 20K.

[fruitpunch]

Yes that Series I has been on Ebay a few times, no takers yet. Strangely he insists on listing it as an 88 everytime even after being told that it's an 86 ....... which leads me to believe he is only really selling to the trendy crowd and not to the collectors.

[jp-]

Fruitpunch,

I have to disagree with you on the military issue. I think you have to draw the line at what is and isn't a military Rover, despite which countries used them. If you don't you could call any Rover painted with flat paint a military Rover, even if it was otherwise an unmodified (or very lightly modified) civilian Rover that was used by any old army.

[fruitpunch]

Well my Swiss ex-mod doesn't have silly overriders or square rear x-member but instead has different mirrors, gunrack and some other swiss army mods. I guess it all depends what floats your boat or your rover.... I certainly wouldn't pay more for a truck with ex-mod features.

[jp-]

Sorry Fruit,

I think you have a lightly modified civy.

[jp-]

For clarification sake:

I would classify any Rover that was ordered from Solihull as a Military vehicle to be a military vehicle. Civilian Land Rovers that were ordered and then later modified for patrol vehicles or light duty army vehicles don't count as full blown military vehicles. This doesn't mean that a civilian Land Rover won't make a great army vehicle, but they were not built and not sold as military Land Rovers.

[fruitpunch]

JP sorry what a load of rubbish, australian mod 109 are completely different then UK once, they cut the fenders out nice and big so there would be no rub. Hence the aussies would say UK MOD vehicles are not the real thing. Just because the UK MOD special order theirs doesn't make them the only once that saw service. How about a Minerva made for the Belgian Military ?.... oh yes doesn't qualify wasn't made completely in Solihull oopps Birmingham. My guess is most militaria collectors would also agree that there is more then one kind....

happy rovering

[fruitpunch]

Sorry Fruit,

I think you have a lightly modified civy.

FYI.... Swiss Military Rovers were all fitted with re-enforced military front axles and the ever so rare gearbox bash plate. The Swiss then modified the lights, electrics, mirrors(unlike the crappy rover once these actually work), added machine gun rack, jerry can holder inside, axe holder and on lwb a shovel holder also. I think the importer carried out the mods but on some other vehicles a company called Mowag now owned by Defense Contractor General Dynamics Corporation was doing the Mods, they have done all kinds of Chevy, Dodge, Hummer things for years.... infact if you every see a Hummer with Square lights it's a Mowag Hummer or known to the as an Eagle.

[jp-]

JP sorry what a load of rubbish, australian mod 109 are completely different then UK once, they cut the fenders out nice and big so there would be no rub. Hence the aussies would say UK MOD vehicles are not the real thing. Just because the UK MOD special order theirs doesn't make them the only once that saw service. How about a Minerva made for the Belgian Military ?.... oh yes doesn't qualify wasn't made completely in Solihull oopps Birmingham. My guess is most militaria collectors would also agree that there is more then one kind....

happy rovering

All good points... I'll have to think on this.

[yorker]

Military rovers could come in any configuration- Land Rover was pretty accommodating as long as the customer had the $ for the modifications they wanted. Modifications could be deleted as well.

Anyone have good pics of the Swiss 88s? I need some.

[jac04]

..and the ever so rare gearbox bash plate.

Is it really rare? I've got one just sitting in my garage - I haven't been able to come up with a good way to mount it.

[fruitpunch]

Mounts with little tabs and bolts into holes in the frame, I haven't seen too many around except on Swiss vehicles you always see them.

[Joecarville]

Acuually the reason for the price is Copley's association with East Coast Rover ,,,,,nice work if you can get it.