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  • utahseries
    1st Gear
    • Apr 2009
    • 155

    Water Temp/Oil Pressure

    Ok, i'm confused... I found a dual water temp/oil pressure gauge in my room of goodies, and I ordered a new oil line for it last night.. I was searching through the parts manual and I'm having a hard time finding out what the part # is for the water pipe?
    Thanks!
    1956 86" S1
    1957 88" S1
    1967 109" SIIA NADA
    2007 LR3
  • LaneRover
    Overdrive
    • Oct 2006
    • 1743

    #2
    Originally posted by utahseries
    Ok, i'm confused... I found a dual water temp/oil pressure gauge in my room of goodies, and I ordered a new oil line for it last night.. I was searching through the parts manual and I'm having a hard time finding out what the part # is for the water pipe?
    Thanks!
    Wouldn't it be a wire? Or should I say, the temp sender with the wire that then goes back to the gauge?
    1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
    1965 109 SW - nearly running well
    1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
    1969 109 P-UP

    http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...2&l=64cfe23aa2

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    • SafeAirOne
      Overdrive
      • Apr 2008
      • 3435

      #3
      Honestly, I'm not familiar with the backside of the combo gauge, but it may be that it's a sealed capilary that goes to a temperature bulb (think "big mercury thermometer") like the gauge shown in the picture. The operative word here is sealed. The "water pipe" is part of the gauge. If it has been snipped off, you may have to have the gauge rebuilt and a new capilary attached/calibrated.

      --Mark

      1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

      0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
      (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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      • amcordo
        5th Gear
        • Jun 2009
        • 740

        #4
        Originally posted by LaneRover
        Wouldn't it be a wire? Or should I say, the temp sender with the wire that then goes back to the gauge?

        Not necessarily. I think I have a mechanical one like he's talking about - has a tube that attaches the oil gauge to the engine and oil travels the tube and the pressure physically moves the gauge.

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        • SafeAirOne
          Overdrive
          • Apr 2008
          • 3435

          #5
          Originally posted by amcordo
          Not necessarily. I think I have a mechanical one like he's talking about - has a tube that attaches the oil gauge to the engine and oil travels the tube and the pressure physically moves the gauge.
          I believe that he's got the oil pressure sorted, but is wondering about the water temp side of the gauge, if I read the post correctly...
          --Mark

          1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

          0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
          (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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          • Bostonian1976
            5th Gear
            • Nov 2006
            • 750

            #6
            Originally posted by amcordo
            Not necessarily. I think I have a mechanical one like he's talking about - has a tube that attaches the oil gauge to the engine and oil travels the tube and the pressure physically moves the gauge.
            that must be fun if/when the line fails. Hot oil bath!!
            '67 sort of station wagon (limestone), '65 gray hardtop, '63 blue Station Wagon, '64 limestone station wagon in pieces

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            • Jeff Aronson
              Moderator
              • Oct 2006
              • 569

              #7
              It has been a long time since I had mine repaired, but when the water temp side failed, I had to send it back through Rovers North to their source for repairs. When it was returned, it installed it (I think it goes into the heard) and it has worked fine ever since.

              Jeff
              Jeff Aronson
              Vinalhaven, ME 04863
              '66 Series II-A SW 88"
              '66 Series II-A HT 88"
              '80 Triumph TR-7 Spider
              '80 Triumph Spitfire
              '66 Corvair Monza Coupe
              http://www.landroverwriter.com

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              • utahseries
                1st Gear
                • Apr 2009
                • 155

                #8
                Originally posted by Jeff Aronson
                It has been a long time since I had mine repaired, but when the water temp side failed, I had to send it back through Rovers North to their source for repairs. When it was returned, it installed it (I think it goes into the heard) and it has worked fine ever since.

                Jeff
                What was the cost of sending it back to RN? Granted it was a while ago? Because i'm 95% sure it has a threaded hole for the water? Oh, and it is the gauge with the Land Rover logo in the middle of it... If that helps?
                1956 86" S1
                1957 88" S1
                1967 109" SIIA NADA
                2007 LR3

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                • jac04
                  Overdrive
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 1884

                  #9
                  The mechanical water temperature side of the gauge needs to be rebuilt by a professional. Send it to Nisonger Instruments (www.nisonger.com) and it will come back like new. That's what I did on the mechanical dual water/oil temp gauge for the '63 I restored.

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                  • utahseries
                    1st Gear
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 155

                    #10
                    Yeah, I pulled it out last night and it needs to be rebuilt haha... How much did it cost and how long did it take?
                    1956 86" S1
                    1957 88" S1
                    1967 109" SIIA NADA
                    2007 LR3

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                    • Jim-ME
                      Overdrive
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 1379

                      #11
                      If you call Nisonger they can answer your questions about cost and time etc. I have dealt with them and found them very good to deal with. New gauges come up on Ebay from time to time. The last time I looked a new one from BP was over $200. Jason is correct about the hot oil bath which is why I used a braided SS line when I installed mine.
                      Jim

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                      • amcordo
                        5th Gear
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 740

                        #12
                        +1 on the hot oil bath hint. DEFINATELY use strong piping for a mechanical gauge that involves any hot liquids. The oil gauge I had was starting to leak. Didn't spray everywhere or anything, but it leaked fast and imagine oil pooling up around old rover wiring...

                        That's about the moment I decided to go all electrical with my gauges.

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                        • Jim-ME
                          Overdrive
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 1379

                          #13
                          I'm still kind of old school about gauges as I was brought up to think electrical gauges are glorified idiot lights. I will admit that I was going to convert to electric oil pressure and use the temp gauge in the cluster for water temp but Matt B. convinced me to use my dual mechanical gauge when I switched out engines and I didn't argue. So far so good.
                          Jim

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                          • Donnie
                            2nd Gear
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 287

                            #14
                            The oel screws off , but the h2o is a capillary tube.........Like the one shown in another photo
                            I spent most of my money on women & cars, the rest of it I just wasted.......

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