Singapore Defenders Anyone?

[mrdoiron]

I have a co-worker living in Singapore checking it out - let you know what he finds...

I do believe however , that an individual is only allowed to import 1 vehicle...

[thixon]

I do believe however , that an individual is only allowed to import 1 vehicle...

Not an issue. One of my associates has a dealers license.

Since you've already started checking into it, post what you find out.

[mrdoiron]

Not an issue. One of my associates has a dealers license.

Since you've already started checking into it, post what you find out.

Buddy HS Lim just talked with him...Since I would need to max the use on athe container already being paid for, would make sense to max that shipment, and apparently 3 can fit in one container.
I guess if I put 3 individuals names, one for each vehicle I should be ok.

[mrdoiron]

Buddy HS Lim just talked with him...Since I would need to max the use on athe container already being paid for, would make sense to max that shipment, and apparently 3 can fit in one container.
I guess if I put 3 individuals names, one for each vehicle I should be ok.

He gave me 5 "engine chassis numbers " as below, but not sure how to translate those to VIN or yr of mfg, as they need to by >25yr old to import...

1. E 18J 00030; C233565
2. E 18J00528; C226574
3. E 18J 00375; C231058
4. E 18J 00633; C233741

Anyone have an idea how to get the DNA on these ?

[mrdoiron]

He gave me 5 "engine chassis numbers " as below, but not sure how to translate those to VIN or yr of mfg, as they need to by >25yr old to import...

1. E 18J 00030; C233565
2. E 18J00528; C226574
3. E 18J 00375; C231058
4. E 18J 00633; C233741

Anyone have an idea how to get the DNA on these ?

Any chance someone knows how to interpret these "engine chassis #'s" to something understandable - then get the year of mfg?

It is possible what he provided are some military only number??
thx

[yorker]

18j may be diesel engine code and I assume the engine serial #. 19j was the 2.5l Turbo diesel IIRC.

http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=19726

[yorker]

He gave me 5 "engine chassis numbers " as below, but not sure how to translate those to VIN or yr of mfg, as they need to by >25yr old to import...

1. E 18J 00030; C233565
2. E 18J00528; C226574
3. E 18J 00375; C231058
4. E 18J 00633; C233741

Anyone have an idea how to get the DNA on these ?

you need the VIN like this;
SALLDHAC7BA225082

SAL Manufacturer code: Land Rover
LD Model: Defender (for early models: Ninety, or One Ten)
H Wheel base: 110 inch
A Body type: 2-door: Pickup, hood cab, truck cab, or soft/hard top
C Engine type: 2.5 litre diesel (model 12J)
7 Steering and transmission: Right-hand drive (RHD), 5-speed manual (LT85, LT77, LT77S, R380 or other)
B Model year: 1985 to 1987
A Assembly location: Solihull, UK
225082 Serial number

http://eu.ironplanet.com/jsp/s/item/258558/Truck%3A---General/Land-Rover/Defender-110/Used/SGP,-SGP

then plug it in here:

http://www.clifton.nl/

the 6 digit code with the c prefix MAY be the last 6 numbers of the VIN:
SALLDHAC7BA233565

[mrdoiron]

18j may be diesel engine code and I assume the engine serial #. 19j was the 2.5l Turbo diesel IIRC.

http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=19726

thanks, you may be right... still cannot determine if there is a reference chart to help decode somewhere, came up blank online search.

[yorker]

I suspect 18j's might be 24v 12j diesels. it is only a guess though. Defenders of that vintage should have 12j engines.

[edit] I think the E in the info you were given indicates the engine model# and serial## and I am willing to bet the C for the second # = "chassis" , in other words it was just shorthand from the seller, ex:

1. E(ngine) 18J 00030; C(hassis) 233565

2. E 18J 00528; C 226574
3. E 18J 00375; C 231058
4. E 18J 00633; C 233741

You need to ask for the "SALLDHAC7BA" part.

[mrdoiron]

I suspect 18j's might be 24v 12j diesels. it is only a guess though. Defenders of that vintage should have 12j engines.

[edit] I think the E in the info you were given indicates the engine model# and serial## and I am willing to bet the C for the second # = "chassis" , in other words it was just shorthand from the seller, ex:

1. E(ngine) 18J 00030; C(hassis) 233565

2. E 18J 00528; C 226574
3. E 18J 00375; C 231058
4. E 18J 00633; C 233741

You need to ask for the "SALLDHAC7BA" part.

Great DNA breakdown, this makes sense. I will request the first 11 digits also... my sense is since it is a lot of vehicles this is all he had at the time...

thanks

[yorker]

I imagine they didn't bother giving you the initial portion of the VIN because, if these vehicles were all bought as one contract, those initial 11 digits would be identical amongst all the 110s purchased.

[ArlowCT]

If the price is right and all the info pans out and you need some more buyers my wife and I would be more than happy to buy 2.

Will be keeping a eye on this thread as info comes in.

Cheers

[mrdoiron]

I imagine they didn't bother giving you the initial portion of the VIN because, if these vehicles were all bought as one contract, those initial 11 digits would be identical amongst all the 110s purchased.

The VINS I now have,
They do all start the same, as SALLDHAC7BA+chassis s/n's.

From this it seems they are 1985-87 vintage, and no apparent guarantee on being 25yrs or older... as they could be 87... any other way anyone knows of the age with only VIN and no other docs. I think there will be a problem importing if the VIN doesn't clearly indicate 25yrs, like if the 10th character was an A rather than a B.

??

[Rineheitzgabot]

If this vast, pool of Land Rover knowledge cannot positively determine what year those things are, how is customs going to do it? I am serious. What method do they use in determining this? I would be surprised if it were a good method.

Although, I bet with the kind of power they wield, it doesn't really matter huh?

[bkreutz]

The way I break that VIN is model year 1981, A is 1980 but the 17 digit VIN came into use in 81, then went up 1 letter each year (but skipped the "I" because of possible confusion with the numeral "1") the first part with all the letters indicates country of origin, manufacturer, model, assembly plant, etc. I'd have to find one of my old books to get the exact breakout. I do remember that the "S" was England and "AL" is Land Rover. (another example is WVW which is a German made VW as opposed to 1VW which is a US made VW)