Land Cruiser Axles

[yorker]

I got two questions 1- anyone know how much wider fj60 are compare to series? 2- I build from fla he cut the knuckles to correct the castor if he wasnt doing soa would this still be nessary? I am plan a build starting with 65 exmod 109 going for safety disc brake daliy driver beach buggy so dont really need any lift

You don't need to cut and turn them if you aren't going SOA. FJ60 axles are ~60" wide IIRC, I believe all that added width is added to the long side.

http://www.toyotaholics.com/support/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14

rustycruiser
03-22-2002, 07:02 PM
Rovers have a a passenger offset rear, right? If so, you would be better off running Land Cruiser than mini truck axles. Cruiser diffs have a 9.25" ring gear versus the 8" of the mini truck. What width axle do want to run. FJ40 axles are 57" front, 56" rear. FJ60 are 60". FJ80s are 63". You would want a 76 plus FJ40 axle--prior to that they had front drums. 1976-1978 were 4.11 R&P, 1979-1987 were 3.73, 1987-1997 were 4.11 again. In 1978, the pinions switched from 10 spline (weaker) to 30 spline. The birfs in 1976-1978 are slightly smaller than 1979-1990, which are same size as mini truck ones. You can run Longfields in any of them. 1991-1997 are freaking huge birfields. 1991 to 1990 FJ80s have a reverse cut mini truck diff, and 1993-1997 came with a disc brake, full floater rear. All previous Cruisers diffs were interchangeable front and rear. Electric lockers were an option from 1993-1997 in the 80 series. The rear FJ80 locker can be retrofitted to the front of previous Cruisers pretty easily. To retrofit to an earlier Cruiser rear requires a full floater conversion.

Hope this is clear, yell if you need any clarification.

Ross
rustycruiser
03-22-2002, 07:16 PM

Forgot to add that cruiser axles are 30 spline, and have a 1.31" diameter. 40 and 60 series are set up for leaves, 80 series were coil sprung.

rustycruiser
03-24-2002, 09:14 AM
Mudcow,
I have seen 60 series axles run from $400 a pair upwards. You gotta look though, cause the FJ40 guys like to pirate them for the extra width for their trucks. Beware that the extra width compared to the FJ40 axle was all added to the long side of the axle. I don't "think" it would be a problem with your coul mounts, but FJ40 owned have to get creative to clear the short side leaf mount as it wants to be in the same area as the diff is. FJ60 axles are 3.73 1980-1987. FJ62 are 4.11 1987-1990. FJ80 axles will probably be more expensive, due to the newerness of the trucks. Not too many of thm being parted out. As far as finding them. Post an add in the Wanted or TLC section. There are also some othere LC lists around the internet. I can email them to you, if needed. HTH

Ross

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-41770.html

Toyota
Mini 79-85 (F) 8" 55" (pass side drop)
Mini 79-85 (R) 8" 55"
Mini 86+ (R) 8" 58"
4Runners 96+ (R) 8" 60"
Tundra/T100 (R) 8.4" 66"
FJ40.45.55 (F) 57" (pass side drop)
FJ40.45.55 (R) 55"
FJ60.62 (F) 60" (pass side drop)
FJ60.62 (R) 58"
FJ80 (F) 64" (pass side drop)
FJ80 (R) 63.5"

Added info:
Toyota Front Axle Widths:
55.5" wide, 29" spring perch centers, '79-85 Toyota trucks and 4runners, and most Landcruisers
63.5" wide, (set up for coil springs) 90-97 FJ80 and FZJ80 Landcruisers
58.5" wide, '86-95 IFS front end
65" wide, '93-98 T100 IFS front end

Toyota Rear Axle Widths:
55" wide, '79-85 trucks/4runners
58.5" wide, '86-95 trucks/4runners
60" wide, '95.5-up Tacomas/4runners
66.75" wide, '93-98 T100 trucks

http://nissan4wheelers.com/eve/ubb.x/a/tpc/f/885603133/m/1546019403/p/1/xsl/print_topic

[thixon]

Yorker,

Will the rover dual master work with cruiser disk/drum setup?

BTW, I'm asking about operating the caliper/cylinder, not about the obvious need to convert to metric fittings.

[lrdukdog]

302 Ford

TeriAnn did this and here is her website for it.

http://www.expeditionlandrover.info/V8Conversion.htm

Hope this helps
Jim Wolf

[yorker]

Yorker,

Will the rover dual master work with cruiser disk/drum setup?

BTW, I'm asking about operating the caliper/cylinder, not about the obvious need to convert to metric fittings.

Which Rover dual master cylinder? I don't think it matters with the Disc/Drum TLC axles- With Disc/Disc(Monte Carlo Calipers) you might need something with a larger bore?

http://www.mindspring.com/~jayk3/toyota/discs.htm

http://www.ih8mud.com/cruisertech.php

You could always use the Ford MC too:

http://www.lrfaq.org/Series/HydraulicsAltSeriesMaster.html

Also FWIW if you get the earlier TLC axles with front drums and you want discs:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/frontdisc/frontdisc.html

Also this sort of intrigues me:

http://www.trail-gear.com/trunnion-bearing-eliminator

I always considered the top trunion bearing a step up from the Land Rover's Railco bush setup. A trunion bearing eliminator that can be greased would be an interesting alternative too.

[JDLalama]

Series III Cruiser 88

I started my rebuild by putting fj55 (same as fj40) axles under my rover, but changed back when someone wanted to swap working rover axles for them. they had 4.10 gears. btw breakover year is mid 75 for "desireable"axles
the rear spring perches need to come inboard about 1.5" each (puts one perch part way on pumpkin. fronts work as they are.
need new shock mounts on axles.
the pinion yolk on the fj axles is longer requiring moving axles or customizing driveshafts
for driveshaft yolk I took a rover driveshaft yolk, cut the mounting holes out and welded in locking collars using the fj yolk as a template.
need metric brakeline adapter to rover brakelines.

How much trouble would it be to put LHD, 1978, fj40 axles under a RHD, 1974, Series III, 88? The only reason I am considering this is cost effectiveness of gaining disc brakes up front and tougher axles front and rear ('78 being 30 spline).