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This topic reminds me of the old popular mechanics tests linked in another thread. A series River was bought to move one or two empty rail cars around a port facility. The forman was upset because the clutch was gone in a month and then found out there was a unspoken competition going one to see just how many cars the Rover could move-empty and loaded. I believe the "winner" moved 4 empties and one loaded-together at one time. As much as I love my rover, I could not recommend it for towing a boat on the road. Moving boats around a boat yard it would be great, but on the road the added weight would only slow it down further making that 40 min trip to the boat launch(without boat)take an hour or more.
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If I was going to make a manual trans cooler I would use a power steering pump and a engine oil cooler. Would be a nice set-up.
I read those popular mecanics too and they said the rover had move 150 ton of rail car....But 150T on tracks does not required 150T pulling power...Comment
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Yeah it's different when it's on wheels, you just have to get it going. I sure would hate to have been that guy in the Rover when it came time to try to stop it!64 IIa 88
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A lot of people have noted that the Series tranny/transfer case gets really hot but do we have any data on how hot? I've often wondered about that. They could seem plenty hot but still be well within safe design parameters.Comment
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Good point-with out a trans temp gauge it is pretty difficult to say if it is too hot or is it just the total lack of insulation between the tranny and the driver that makes us more aware of the heat. I'm still new to series Rovers but I don't recall reading about tranny's overheating being a specific problem. Now this is in relation to towing a boat and maybe even more so about handling the extra torque of a V8 AND the extra strain of towing a boat All of the boats that Tony has mentioned being interested in are small and pretty light weight-these are boats that can be towed by a small car so I don't see it being a problem if he stays under 3K lbs.64 IIa 88
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~Matt
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Automatics..
The oil coolers in tow packages are usually for automatic transmissions, they are constantly slipping and creating heat. With a manual and good synthetic gear oil I doubt it would be a problem. Two different beasts.1968 battlefield ambulance/camper
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R380 cooler info just for the heck of it:
http://www.ashcrofttransmissions.co....&productId=156
(R380's have an internal pump)Comment
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I rode the wave of wanting a boat and lasted through it (thankfully) without buying one.
That's how I got the rover. One day I woke up and thought I'm just going to see how much they cost. Then I blacked out. When I woke up I was on a Southwest 737 on my way to Maryland with a check in my hand.
I remember the guy I bought it off of went for a drive with me in it down the street. When we came back to his hanger he looked at me and said "so you still interested in it?" When I said yes he had kind of a shifty look in his eyes. Like he knew the crap I was getting into but didn't want to warn me for fear I'd turn back.
A year later the only phrase he said to me that really stuck: "Be careful of upgrading or fixing things on it. It has a tendency to drain your wallet before you even know it."Comment
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PS: a cheap trick to keep the transmission cool is to power wash it thoroughly, regularly. The metal on the transmission is a fantastic heat sink - but heat sinks don't work if they're covered in an insulator (like dirt stuck to old oil).Comment
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It would be pretty easy to add extra oil capacity to the transfer case- there is a company in Spain or Italy that makes an extended sump for the LT-230 the same could be done to the Series T case. I've often thought about doiing it but in the end I am not convinced there is a problem there- I've never had the oil break down with the stock setup. Sure the tranny and transfer case get hot but they do in other vehicles too. Without any real data on actual temps in them or evidence that it is a problem it would at best be another overkill-belts and suspenders type modification.Comment
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My lightweight can pull this 25' MacGregor without any trouble. Even had it on the highway and although you have to plan ahead for braking and acceleration, it's not that bad to drive.
I've also pulled a 40' travel trailer but that is totally inadvisable. That run even damaged my rear cross member on a steep downhill section where the trailer pushed the truck down hill around a freshly graveled road.
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I want your boat...just thought I'd tell yaMy lightweight can pull this 25' MacGregor without any trouble. Even had it on the highway and although you have to plan ahead for braking and acceleration, it's not that bad to drive.
I've also pulled a 40' travel trailer but that is totally inadvisable. That run even damaged my rear cross member on a steep downhill section where the trailer pushed the truck down hill around a freshly graveled road.
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