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  • FREEMAN
    Low Range
    • Apr 2007
    • 6

    engine swap on s III

    HI ,
    have more modern 4 cylinder engines been instaled on series III's?
    like american made engine? transmission etc.

    thanks
  • Tim Smith
    Overdrive
    • Nov 2006
    • 1504

    #2
    Originally posted by FREEMAN
    HI ,
    have more modern 4 cylinder engines been instaled on series III's?
    like american made engine? transmission etc.

    thanks
    Think I read somewhere that just about every popular engine out there has been tried in a series truck. So yes.

    Afraid I don't know all the combinations or where to find info on all of them... but I'm sure someone on the list will.

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    • giorgio
      Low Range
      • Jan 2007
      • 74

      #3
      My 1973 Series III has a Chevy 153 ci four cylinder installed in it. (not a 151 ci.) It was that way when I bought it in about 1987.. I do not know if it is any more powerful or not, but it's pretty peppy. I have been told that it is the same engine that they use in the 4-cyl Mercruiser. Those Mercruisers will run at around 5000 rpm all day long. Of course that is in a boat, and I don't know the difference in the strain on the motor.

      For what it's worth,

      Giorgio

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      • jakenok
        Low Range
        • May 2007
        • 2

        #4
        A few years back, somebody dropped a 4 cylinder Mercedes diesel (190D?) into a series. He had a web page about the swap.

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        • jp-
          5th Gear
          • Oct 2006
          • 981

          #5
          I hate to say this, but I'm thinking about a 5MGE or 7MGE engine for my next project Rover. I measured a 5MGE, and it is the exact same length as the 2.25 plus it has two more cylinders!
          61 II 109" Pickup (Restomod, 350 small block, TR4050)
          66 IIA 88" Station Wagon (sold)
          66 IIA 109" Pickup (Restomod, 5MGE, R380)
          67 IIA 109" NADA Wagon (sold)
          88, 2.5TD 110 RHD non-hicap pickup

          -I used to know everything there was to know about Land Rovers; then I joined the RN Bulletin Board.

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          • daveb
            5th Gear
            • Nov 2006
            • 513

            #6
            Originally posted by jp-
            I hate to say this, but I'm thinking about a 5MGE or 7MGE engine for my next project Rover. I measured a 5MGE, and it is the exact same length as the 2.25 plus it has two more cylinders!

            hey, I like engine conversions. I didn't know what that was so I looked it up:

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            is there a set of cams that will get the max torque down below 4400 rpm? it seems like kind of a high revving motor made for a lightish roadgoing car and not so much for a heavy mud plugging LR. just sayin...
            A Land Rover would never turn up to collect an Oscar. It'd be far too busy doing something important, somewhere, for someone."


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            • jp-
              5th Gear
              • Oct 2006
              • 981

              #7
              Dave,

              The 5MGE & 7MGE are quite possibly the finest inline 6 cylinder engines ever built. I have had two 5MGE cars and rebuilt one of the engines at close to 300,000 miles. At 290,000 miles it would still smoke the tires to the ground. I'm not worried about the torque curve being a little higher. The engines run like sewing machines anyway.

              I don't know about cams, but it doesn't concern me. Also, the Cressida is not a light car. I have taken big V-8 cars with ease, off the lights. The unimposing Cressida was a true sleeper.
              61 II 109" Pickup (Restomod, 350 small block, TR4050)
              66 IIA 88" Station Wagon (sold)
              66 IIA 109" Pickup (Restomod, 5MGE, R380)
              67 IIA 109" NADA Wagon (sold)
              88, 2.5TD 110 RHD non-hicap pickup

              -I used to know everything there was to know about Land Rovers; then I joined the RN Bulletin Board.

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              • slorocco
                2nd Gear
                • Feb 2007
                • 208

                #8
                There's a lot to be said for having good torque at low revs. Being able to let the clutch out and idle over obstacles or at least get over them with minimal clutch and throttle work is prefferable than having to slip the clutch and rev the motor.

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                • jp-
                  5th Gear
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 981

                  #9
                  Originally posted by slorocco
                  There's a lot to be said for having good torque at low revs. Being able to let the clutch out and idle over obstacles or at least get over them with minimal clutch and throttle work is prefferable than having to slip the clutch and rev the motor.
                  Again, a moot point. The 5MGE will have more power/torque even at low RPM than the 2.25.
                  61 II 109" Pickup (Restomod, 350 small block, TR4050)
                  66 IIA 88" Station Wagon (sold)
                  66 IIA 109" Pickup (Restomod, 5MGE, R380)
                  67 IIA 109" NADA Wagon (sold)
                  88, 2.5TD 110 RHD non-hicap pickup

                  -I used to know everything there was to know about Land Rovers; then I joined the RN Bulletin Board.

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                  • jp-
                    5th Gear
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 981

                    #10
                    I'm just thinking about it, don't know if it's worth the trouble.
                    61 II 109" Pickup (Restomod, 350 small block, TR4050)
                    66 IIA 88" Station Wagon (sold)
                    66 IIA 109" Pickup (Restomod, 5MGE, R380)
                    67 IIA 109" NADA Wagon (sold)
                    88, 2.5TD 110 RHD non-hicap pickup

                    -I used to know everything there was to know about Land Rovers; then I joined the RN Bulletin Board.

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                    • Mercedesrover
                      3rd Gear
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 343

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Txjake
                      A few years back, somebody dropped a 4 cylinder Mercedes diesel (190D?) into a series. He had a web page about the swap.
                      I resemble that remark.



                      A new batch of adapters are in the works right now.

                      Jim
                      www.seriestrek.com

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                      • om617
                        Low Range
                        • May 2007
                        • 14

                        #12
                        engine swaps

                        mercedes rover, I see that you are now producing "plates" to replumb for a remote filter on the Mercedes engines. I am interested in one as my milling machine has developed a problem. Let me know if you have any you would like to part with. FYI-the adaptor plate is a thing of beauty -Thanks.

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                        • Mercedesrover
                          3rd Gear
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 343

                          #13
                          In stock. I can get one out for you tomorrow. Drop me a PM or an email.

                          pbs@mohawk.net

                          Jim
                          www.seriestrek.com

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                          • jp-
                            5th Gear
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 981

                            #14
                            Jim,

                            Will yours burn veggie oil?

                            Also, will the adapter plate fit other Mercedes diesels? If so, what other Mercedes engines will work?
                            61 II 109" Pickup (Restomod, 350 small block, TR4050)
                            66 IIA 88" Station Wagon (sold)
                            66 IIA 109" Pickup (Restomod, 5MGE, R380)
                            67 IIA 109" NADA Wagon (sold)
                            88, 2.5TD 110 RHD non-hicap pickup

                            -I used to know everything there was to know about Land Rovers; then I joined the RN Bulletin Board.

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                            • Mercedesrover
                              3rd Gear
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 343

                              #15
                              It'll burn whatever you can pour into it. Waste veggie oil, any fresh veggie oil, transmission fluid, motor oil, fish oil, hydraulic oil, etc.

                              These adapters fit any Mercecdes 616/617 diesel engine from the mid '70s to the mid 80's. (Mercedes 240D, 300D, etc.) They don't fit the 601-190D engine that was mentioned earlier.

                              jim
                              www.seriestrek.com

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