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  • 73series88
    5th Gear
    • Oct 2009
    • 587

    diff swap opinions

    hey everyone
    ive been thinking about the roverdrive for the series, but there so expensive. and im not sure on the reliability of the fairey od
    someone near me has a set of 3.5 RRC diffs for sale, that are supposed to
    be able to basically make my rover permanitaly in an overdrive state
    for alot less than either any ods out there.
    i dont really do alot of offroading, so thats not an issue.
    i live in ct so i have hills here.
    thanks
    aaron
    73 series III 88 2.5 na diesel daily driver
    67 series 2a 88 RHD sold
    88 RRC sold
    60 mga coupe
  • rejeep
    4th Gear
    • Apr 2010
    • 420

    #2
    Roverdrive well worth the $$$..

    Its nice to have the gearing options and ability to split gears..

    Up here in Rochester there aren’t a lot of hills, but I find myself splitting gears and needing more umph often..

    I grew up in Woodbridge CT.. I know the area well.. I would not want to drive around permanently in OD...

    Would make slow, slower, and just plain not fun..

    my opinion of course..
    1971 SIIa 88" NAS Dauntles V6
    1974 SIII 109" RHD

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    • gambrinus
      1st Gear
      • Jan 2007
      • 142

      #3
      3.54 diffs + a 2.25 engine = epic fail. It's too high of a ratio for the engine to deal with. The slightest hill will feel like Mount Everest.

      Save your pennies and buy the Roverdrive.


      RW

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      • LR Max
        3rd Gear
        • Feb 2010
        • 315

        #4
        Roverdrive, you get what you pay for.

        Fairey's are actually a lot tougher than people give them credit for. Also carry the bits you need to swap it back, and you'll be fine. Only problem with a Fairey is that it is LOUD!!!

        Only time you use an OD is on the highway. Rest of the time the standard rover drivetrain is good. Adding 3.54 diffs will ruin that. Unless you've got a bigger powerplant.

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        • TedW
          5th Gear
          • Feb 2007
          • 887

          #5
          I've had a Superwinch (Fairey) for almost 20 years.

          Very reliable, and not that noisey, IMHO. Just use synthetic 90w and you'll be fine.

          BTW: I've never heard a negative word about the Roverdrive. But maybe I'm just not listening. If I was in the market today, I would probably go with the Roverdrive. But my Fairey is going strong and I am very happy with it.

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          • mongoswede
            5th Gear
            • May 2010
            • 757

            #6
            Aschcroft in the UK has some other R&P ratios available for rover axles that I think will work with series trucks...you might have to run the Range rover carrier. I think the cost is per ring and pinion so double for a front/rear set (195 BPD). http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co...ewCat&catId=12 The 4.37:1 would probably work well.

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            • yorker
              Overdrive
              • Nov 2006
              • 1635

              #7
              I wouldn't do it but in the UK it is a common modification, even with the 2.25 diesel!!? If nothing else you could buy the diffs and try it out- it isn't that hard to swap. Then if it isn't for you swap back.
              1965 SIIa 88",1975 Ex-MOD 109/Ambulance, 1989 RRC, blah, blah, blah...

              Land Rover UK Forums

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              • tmckeon88
                1st Gear
                • Jan 2007
                • 139

                #8
                I also would push for the Roverdrive. I put one in last year and it has been great - quiet and reliable. Again, the highway is where you mostly use it, and splitting gears when climbing hills.
                Tom
                1969 Series IIA 88"
                I like it because I understand how it works (mostly).

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                • Tim Smith
                  Overdrive
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 1504

                  #9
                  The Roverdrive is well worth the money. Not only do they work very well but Ray is easy to get in touch with if you do have any trouble.

                  I called him up a few weeks ago to help clarify something for a transmission rebuild I was doing. In the call I noted that one of the batwing washers inside my Roverdrive was getting loose and will probably need to be replaced soon. To this Ray said:
                  Oh! That sounds like a high mileage unit. If you don't mind sending it in when you get through with your travels, I'd love to show it to the boys and we can rebuild the unit for you. We don't get many units sent back to us.
                  If that isn't telling about how robust they are, I don't know what is.

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                  • Donnie
                    2nd Gear
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 287

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Tim Smith
                    The Roverdrive is well worth the money. Not only do they work very well but Ray is easy to get in touch with if you do have any trouble.

                    I called him up a few weeks ago to help clarify something for a transmission rebuild I was doing. In the call I noted that one of the batwing washers inside my Roverdrive was getting loose and will probably need to be replaced soon. To this Ray said:
                    Oh! That sounds like a high mileage unit. If you don't mind sending it in when you get through with your travels, I'd love to show it to the boys and we can rebuild the unit for you. We don't get many units sent back to us.
                    If that isn't telling about how robust they are, I don't know what is.
                    the batwing washer that you speak of . Is it a slip in , like split & installed w/o pulling the pin or does it have a hole thru the washer for the pin? can you get a picture of it up?How many pinions are in this planet?
                    I spent most of my money on women & cars, the rest of it I just wasted.......

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                    • alaskajosh
                      2nd Gear
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 208

                      #11
                      3.8:1 available from KAM duplicates Roverdrive ratio almost exactly. Swap the right bits from a suffix B transfer case and your low range will stay right where it's at. It's the magic bullet. All for relatively cheap and stupid simple reliable.
                      I wouldn't go any higher than those 3.8s if I were you.

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                      • Tim Smith
                        Overdrive
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 1504

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Donnie
                        the batwing washer that you speak of . Is it a slip in , like split & installed w/o pulling the pin or does it have a hole thru the washer for the pin? can you get a picture of it up?How many pinions are in this planet?
                        Sorry I forgot to take a picture of it. I can tell you that is is not a slip in. In fact Ray said it would be a pretty tough job to replace it without some of his speciality tools. I can't remember how many pinions are in the planet either.

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                        • dabawei
                          Low Range
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 57

                          #13
                          Hello,

                          I am looking for advice in upgrading my series 2a 1966 diff. my series-2a is reach hardly 50Mph on 4th gear. where wondering others is hitting 60Mph!

                          I did last year fully rebuild from A-Z; therefore, I am assuming transmission running normal.

                          I do not prefer Overdrive and it is not available in our region (Middle east) and shipping is costly. My usage mainly on street and sands dunes.

                          I read that Discovery 3.54 Diff will not help, as I notice on original series diff with long and steep bridge speed is decreasing with 4th gear.

                          Therefore, how many mile/hour it would add if I use the ASHCROFT 3.75 or 4.12? AND what is your opinion on output torque if I use 3.75 OR 4.12?

                          thanks

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                          • yorker
                            Overdrive
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 1635

                            #14
                            Originally posted by dabawei
                            Hello,

                            I am looking for advice in upgrading my series 2a 1966 diff. my series-2a is reach hardly 50Mph on 4th gear. where wondering others is hitting 60Mph!

                            What other vehicles are you running with? If they are later 4x4's like V8 powered Land Rovers or Toyota Land Cruisers the old IIa will never really keep up at higher speeds. That said you should be able to do more than 50mph at least on flat sections.

                            IIa's are geared the way they are to make up for the relative low power and poor aerodynamics. You could put in 4.12's or 3.95s or other gears but it will make up for the fact that the engine is what it is. Top speed may technically increase but the ability to hold that speed on inclines won't be better.
                            1965 SIIa 88",1975 Ex-MOD 109/Ambulance, 1989 RRC, blah, blah, blah...

                            Land Rover UK Forums

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                            • bugeye88
                              1st Gear
                              • Apr 2013
                              • 167

                              #15
                              I'm with Ted. I have had a Fairey for years and its been reliable and not that noisy. Keeping the oil up is key as they don't have the largest reservoir for the 90 wt. That said if you find a NOS or refurbished Fairey unit for a reasonable price, go for it. Of course the problem they are out of production, but there are plenty of parts available. The Roverdrive is undoubtedly an excellent unit if the funds are there.
                              Rob

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