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  • 73series88
    5th Gear
    • Oct 2009
    • 587

    hey guys ive got a problem

    if it isn't one thing its another
    im so close to just throwing in the towel.
    73 series 88
    2.25 2a motor
    weber carb
    anytime i try to drive i get the rover
    starts fine
    idles fine
    try to give it some revs and it starts popping and sputtering and backfires
    acts like a fuel problem
    new lines
    has new fuel mech pump thought that was the problem so i put an inlne in with no improvement
    new filters. even thought i had bad gas so i put a can of fresh petrol in the cab and ran off that. no improvement.
    weber is rebuilt last spring and i took it apart it's clean.
    no vac leaks

    new distributor last spring. points look fine. gapped the anyways
    new spark plugs.
    wires are fine.
    new coil last fall
    all connections are fine.
    i even ran the coil directly off the battery to isolate the ignition
    no improvement.
    cleaned the rotor and cap contact points as well
    only thing i can think is either cap and rotor or coil. but there only 8 10 months old.
    i dont know but im getting very discouraged.
    any help would be great
    thanks
    aaron
    73 series III 88 2.5 na diesel daily driver
    67 series 2a 88 RHD sold
    88 RRC sold
    60 mga coupe
  • Cutter
    4th Gear
    • Feb 2009
    • 455

    #2
    Is the vacuum advance on the dizzy working? Probably not the culprit, but pull the tube with the engine off and suck on it to see if the advance is moving in there.

    My friend and I had a similar situation when I first got my truck and after finding lots of little things to fix that slowly improved the way it was running, the biggest issue was a bad plug (that was newish).
    _________________________________________
    1986 3.5l 110 SW Austrian Feurwehr

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    • 73series88
      5th Gear
      • Oct 2009
      • 587

      #3
      just checked vac adv
      works perfectly
      73 series III 88 2.5 na diesel daily driver
      67 series 2a 88 RHD sold
      88 RRC sold
      60 mga coupe

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      • Terrys
        Overdrive
        • May 2007
        • 1382

        #4
        Is it backfiring out, or in ? Out is 99% ignition, in is very often cam timing (Chain related). If your chain tensioner isn't working, or is all the way ratcheted up, or the chain has stretched (back to the tensioner)backfiring through the intake is usually the symptom.
        I'm going to assume you're refering to backfiring out the exhaust, since you're also saying 'sputtering'.
        Contrary to a recent statement by a reputable poster, Condensers DO fail with similar symptoms. They yield very erratic firing because their internal dielectric insulation is failing. It isn't rare, and after 45+ years experience with British ignition systems, I've seen it a fair bit.

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        • Rich Lambert
          Low Range
          • Aug 2009
          • 18

          #5
          My Porsche mechanic always says most fuel system problems are ignition problems.

          If it were me, I'd swap out the points, rotor, you have a condenser?, coil, cap and check the timing. Ignition parts aren't like they used to be, when they'd last for years and years. They are cheaply made out of cheap materials that don't hold up, especially if you're running any kind high output ignition.
          Rich
          '58 Series II 88"

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          • 73series88
            5th Gear
            • Oct 2009
            • 587

            #6
            LET IT BE HEARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            I JUST SPLICED AN OLD CONDENSER FROM AN OLD MGA DIZZY I HAD
            AND IT RUNS PERFECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
            73 series III 88 2.5 na diesel daily driver
            67 series 2a 88 RHD sold
            88 RRC sold
            60 mga coupe

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            • SafeAirOne
              Overdrive
              • Apr 2008
              • 3435

              #7
              Originally posted by 73series88
              I JUST SPLICED AN OLD CONDENSER FROM AN OLD MGA DIZZY I HAD
              AND IT RUNS PERFECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

              Too bad. I was hoping to pick up an 88 cheap when you threw in the towel for good!
              --Mark

              1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

              0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
              (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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              • 73series88
                5th Gear
                • Oct 2009
                • 587

                #8
                YOU WERE RIGHT
                BAD CONDENCER
                73 series III 88 2.5 na diesel daily driver
                67 series 2a 88 RHD sold
                88 RRC sold
                60 mga coupe

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                • BobJones
                  Low Range
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 61

                  #9
                  awesome!!!!

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                  • LaneRover
                    Overdrive
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 1743

                    #10
                    Awesome!!

                    I was going to suggest the mechanical advance, very glad you got it figured out!
                    1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
                    1965 109 SW - nearly running well
                    1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
                    1969 109 P-UP

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                    • Terrys
                      Overdrive
                      • May 2007
                      • 1382

                      #11
                      See Aaron, I ain't dead yet.

                      Rich, I'm glad your Porsche mechanic isn't a heart surgeon. My Doc says my foot pain is all in my head. Where do these guys come from?

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                      • Rich Lambert
                        Low Range
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 18

                        #12
                        I think it comes from all the guys that screw up a perfectly good tune on a pair of 3 barrel Webers while trying to repair what turns out to be an ignition issue.
                        Last edited by Rich Lambert; 10-30-2010, 09:58 PM.
                        Rich
                        '58 Series II 88"

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                        • NickDawson
                          5th Gear
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 707

                          #13
                          Originally posted by 73series88
                          I JUST SPLICED AN OLD CONDENSER FROM AN OLD MGA DIZZY I HAD
                          AND IT RUNS PERFECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                          I had the EXACT same problem and the exact same solution - and I know from other threads that we are not alone. I recall hearing something about a bad run of condensers from some supplier.... regardless, I'm glad it is running again for you and that the solution wasn't too complex!

                          Im also glad you didn't throw in the towel - I've been there myself (and have been vocal about it here ) and through some amazingly patient helpers have been able to walk me through keep my truck running. Isn't it a rewarding feeling when you get it back on the road?!

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                          • NickDawson
                            5th Gear
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 707

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Rich Lambert
                            I think it comes from all the guys that screw up a perfectly good tune a pair of 3 barrel Webers while trying to repair what turns out to be an ignition issue.
                            When I got my truck, I was convinced everything was related to the carb. Turns out you guys are right, it is almost never the carb.

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