clean with just brake fluid/ pushrod question

[donnykaz]

well after having fun drilling out the rusted hardware to get the dustsheild out, i;m about to attempt rebuilding the clutch master and slave which both weren't pitted inside so hopefully they will work fine afterwards.............should i just clean them out with fresh clean brake fluid? When i pulled the slave was the pushrod supposed to come out with it......being a new owner I'm finally seeing the frustration/"fun" that these trucks can be nice to get in the s2000 and have everything work nice .....

plus i have a brandnew bullbar assembly that the previous owner bought for the truck but never put on.....anybody interested in trade from rims/tires the ones on the truck are dryrotted and skinny, don't think they will pass inspection.....

on Long Island

thanks guys for all the help so far
-DOn

[scott]

i am in the middle of the same job. replaced the slave last oct. did clutch and prsr plate in jan. put in a new master sunday drove 3 miles and blew out the slave flex hose. cause: adjusted the mc push rod before reinstalling. had the rod adjusted too long which didn't allow the fluid to drain back into the mc, pressure built up with every shift. clutch slipped a little and pedal got harder and harder 'til the flex rupture. enjoy. and i used brake & electrical cleaner.

[daveb]

adjusted the mc push rod before reinstalling

well, that is how it should be done. you want just the smallest perceptible free play between the pushord end and the master cylinder piston. the factory used really thin washers on the nuts either side of the barrel @ the end of the pedal arm. I found that with a regular hardware store washer it was difficult to get the correct freeplay.

[jp-]

Dave,

You're right about the freeplay, but having the right amount of freeplay doesn't do any good if the pushrod in the master cylinder isn't coming back far enough to relieve the pressure.

[scott]

the 1/16" play has to be obtain while the system is all together w/ fluid in and air out. my mistake was doing it on a bench and the mc piston was not in the full open position (allowing the fuild to return to zero pressure and the slave piston to return to its rest position). this causes the clutch to slip as the throw out bearing is still apply force to the clutch well after your foot is off the pedal. i'm thinking of cutting a hole in my wing to access the mc rod adjutment and covering it with those diamond plate wing top protectors. i really don't want to pull the wing off to adjust that rod legnth.

[jp-]

Diamond plate looks pathetic. It's use on Land Rovers should be banned.

Pull the wing you turkey.

[scott]

geeze that's harsh. they're not my first choice. i'm going home tonight and see if i can cut down some wrenches and get them and my hand in through the wheel well. the other option is to pull the mc, guess adj on the bench, reinstall and test. repeat as needed. wing removal doesn't look like much fun. heck i haven't reinstalled the floor boards, doors or bolted in the seat box from the cluth install. if i take off the wing, that's not really needed for wheeling, there's no telling when i'll put it back on

[jp-]

Why don't you pull the mudshield any see if you have enough room?

[scott]

i did, that's how i got the mc out and back in. (and that another part i hadn't put back). i need to go back and see if there's enough room to pull the plate off the top of the mc bracket and if there's enough to get a couple of cut down line wrenches in there. the job, wife, kid and navy reserves keep getting in the way of my time with the rove.

[scott]

morn'n jp

you aren't still mad about those little red clippy things are ya?

with the mud shield and wheel off there was plenty of room. sitting on the tire with the brake drum as a back rest it was easy to get the cover plate off the mc housing unit but i just couldn't get wrenches on the push rod nuts so i pulled it all out. there are those freak'n flanges n the end of the pedal that has the push rod nuts sort of hard to get a wrench on, even when its on the bench. any way i guess adjusted put it back in and about 11pm was out cruising the nieghborhood. drove to work today, about 7 miles with thirty or so starts and shifts and all feels good. no grind no slip

[jp-]

Mad?

I don't get mad. Sarcasm wards off all anger. (Although at times I may get a little frustrated.)

By the way, what is hydrolic oil? Where do you get it? I'd like to try some.

All my store sells is the hydraulic type.

Glad you got it fixed.

[jp-]

-Anger makes the blood boil.

-When the blood starts to boil, the capacity for rational thought starts to diminish.

Only the government has the capability to curb rational thought on those who are otherwise blessed with it.

[Tim Smith]

... Only the government has the capability to curb rational thought on those who are otherwise blessed with it.

Orwell?

Oh wait, that's not fiction.

[jp-]

Orwell?

Belvedere

[scott]

o k i can't spell. and i'm to lazy to put things back and some will say i don't listen very well but i got beer, some tools and a 42 y/o 4x4 and next weekend off. so with the sides rolled up i think i'll head out into the desert to see how far out i can get a tow truck to come.