Buying Rebuilt Engine Sources

[LaneRover]

I put one of the MOD rebuilds in my 109 P-up and it was great. The only thing I changed was that I kept the rochester that was on the truck when I bought it.

Which means somewhere I have a rebuilt solex sitting around . . .

The MOD doesn't mind spending $$$ on a re-build or new parts for such a re-build. As mentioned earlier though, these brilliant new parts could have been put together by some inbred slack jawed yokel who was still pissed off over his decision to take the army over prison.

Maybe I got lucky but I have been very pleased.

[jac04]

...but really, these are MOD rebuilds.

No, they are marketed & sold as RN rebuilds, with the RN price tag. RN only uses the MOD rebuild as a 'core' for their rebuild. If they were sold as a MOD rebuild, then I would agree with you.

[JackIIA]

I gotta agree with Jac04 on that one. I love RN and Les and Arthur have ALWAYS done right by me...but I'd be unhappy to receive the engine Jeff got after the outlay of cash, MOD or otherwise. To RN's credit, they clearly took care of the problem when it was presented. And I've found they've done the same for me on other issues over the years.

[Tim Smith]

I suppose I read it to be MOD rebuilds and not rebuilt by RN. I can't seem to find these on the site for sale? Did RN stop selling them?

[jac04]

They are still listed, but don't know availability:

http://www.roversnorth.com/store/p-5824-use-rtc2352g-or-rtc2352a-generator-or-alternator.aspx

[Broadstone]

This post makes me think people have given in and cast aside a rebuildable engine for something they just drop in. Where do these poor things end up?

[Tim Smith]

They are still listed, but don't know availability:
http://www.roversnorth.com/store/p-5...lternator.aspx

Maybe it's me but I'm not seeing a deception with that description. As stated on their page, I bet they really are "ready to run." Maybe just not ready to run to the Concours d'Excellence.

Don't read my take on this as an attack on your position or second guessing your experience. Obviously you didn't get what you expected. That much is clear. But at least they dealt with it correctly and refunded it for you. Correct?

I don't think it's fair to shun our hosts for offering a motor that is probably going to do just fine for most owners out there. If nothing else, at least it's an option to compare against when someone is looking for a replacement motor.

[LaneRover]

This post makes me think people have given in and cast aside a rebuildable engine for something they just drop in. Where do these poor things end up?

Right now mine is in the box that the MOD engine came in , sitting in my garage. I pulled the head off of it to fix the head on my 109 SW.

The plan is to re-build it so I have a spare.

[Tim Smith]

This post makes me think people have given in and cast aside a rebuildable engine for something they just drop in. Where do these poor things end up?

Although I've probably shot my credibility for defending that ugly engine pictured above, I would gladly rebuild a 2.25 rather than buy a new one. So if anyone has any of these ship anchors sitting around gathering dust, just let me know.

[kevin-ct]

People who can, rebuild, people who can't, buy a rebuilt

[Terrys]

The complete engines listed on the RN site are rebuilds of already-rebuilt military engines that they have done by a local shop. I bought one and RN came and got it back due to multiple quality concerns based on visual inspection only. Plus, the ancillary equipment (water pump, manifolds, fuel pump, carb, alternator) is all used stuff that is in 'servicable' condition at best. Check out the pictures below of the engine that I originally received from RN. When I asked RN to quote me a top quality rebuilt complete engine, the price I was quoted was $7500 . I found it to be more cost effective for me to buy the Turner long block and dress it out myself with new Genuine parts and parts that I rebuilt from my original engine.













For reference, this was the picture shown on the RN web site for the RNE568 Engine that I purchased:
(Big difference, huh?)

Those pictures tell a whole story. Repainted is not rebuilt. A proper REBUILD will start by removing all the core plugs and freeze plugs, then boiling the block. There wouldn't be any evidence of rust, or old flaking paint. It doesn't look like the head was even off that engine Jeff. If the seller of that engine told me he had them bebuilt, I wouldn't buy it and would be suspect of wear internally. How do you renew the timing chain, and tensioner without pulling the front cover? How do you renew the mains and rod bearings with pulling the pan? How do you lap the valves and ridge the bore without pulling the head?

[Broadstone]

Well we are much better at saving what we have than our fellow owners in the U.K. as they discard many useful engines there. Even the 2.5 NAD, turbo and petrol engines do not mean much to them when the TDI's go in.

[Tim Smith]

From the description page.

A complete solution to a tired engine. Ready to run. These engines are complete with ancillaries. Designed for unleaded with performance 8:1 cylinder head. *Core charge for cylinder head only $ 100.00.

USE RTC2352G OR RTC2352A



Part#: RNE568

It doesn't say it was rebuilt. In fact, it doesn't say anything about their source at all. Maybe this was a change in sales policy?

I have to take a step back because it seems Jeff was told these engines were rebuilt state side. If that's the case then I too would be upset as a buyer to receive that.

[kevin-ct]

We should rename this thread! To, the engine that Jeff was unhappy with.

[jac04]

Sorry, didn't mean for it to turn into that. I just wanted to make sure that what happened to me doesn't happen to someone else.