Buying Rebuilt Engine Sources

[SGS714]

Placed order for new engine today with ACR. Roland is the owner and very helpful.....should have right before xmas if all goes well.

177 FtLb @ 2300 RPM 117 BHP @ 4100 RPM.

ACR 2.8 Power Plus engine package, includes stage 2 head, Power Plus
Cam and Power Plus carb and intake etc, with all bits to convert from 3MB
Tubular 4:1 exhaust manifold
Thermostat housing + thermost + water*pump
Side plates, oil filler tube, engine mount brackets, engine mounts*etc, all prepared, painted and fitted with new fasteners.
Air freight
$7100

Will keep you posted after I receive.

[Mountain132]

That's great, the perfect xmas gift. Can't wait to see picks. I honestly hope it gets lost in shipping and ends up in my garage.

The worst part now is just looking in your driveway everyday you come home from work hoping it's there, or do you have to pick it up which would ruin the surprise

[gchinsr]

I have wanted one of those forever, but too rich for my blood new. There is a GOD, as I just bought a EBay low mile used 2.8 5MB going to Roland for a freshening/check up before sailing after holidays. Huge upgrade from opening up everything inside the engine to breath better.

[junkyddog11]

I have never understood the idea of a performance Series 4cyl but that doesn't mean it's a bad thing. ACR does a great job. I just don't particularily like the way they drive. The power is there but it is at a different rpm range. Reminds me of a 2 stroke motorcycle...."peaky".

RN has been looking for cores to rebuild (or they have asked me several times but....I keep them for my own rebuilds), which would suggest to me that they are rebuilding them locally.

[Eric W S]

I have never understood the idea of a performance Series 4cyl but that doesn't mean it's a bad thing. ACR does a great job. I just don't particularily like the way they drive. The power is there but it is at a different rpm range. Reminds me of a 2 stroke motorcycle...."peaky".

RN has been looking for cores to rebuild (or they have asked me several times but....I keep them for my own rebuilds), which would suggest to me that they are rebuilding them locally.

x2. A nice rebuild from a local shop and the 2.25 does nicely. The 2,2,5 is what it is.

$7,100 for that motor is a complete rip -off.

[rejeep]

177 FtLb @ 2300 RPM 117 BHP @ 4100 RPM.

isnt that in the series gearbox unhappy area?

[KevinNY]

That will be fine, look at the RPMs to be at those numbers.

[I Leak Oil]

That will be fine, look at the RPMs to be at those numbers.

Ya, your ear drums and fillings will cry uncle long before your gearbox does at that RPM.
As for the cost, I could care less what someone else spends their money on.....as long as their not spending mine!

[JackIIA]

A bit of a tangent, but if someone is kind enough to list the specs on an expensive item and include the cost, I for one really appreciate it. Not only does it provide a benchmark, but it increases bargaining power for anyone in the future who might take that route. If I know customer A paid X, I know not to pay more than that and if there is enough data, I may pay considerably less. Just a thought to avoid shutting down communication.

Getting off the soapbox now.

[gchinsr]

What many forget at looking at these numbers is, that is peak power and torque. What you forget is with new cam profile, and improved breathing, is the torque curve starts much lower with more available torque through to peak. Plus nothing beats extra displacement for power and torque improvements. IMHO

[gchinsr]

What many forget at looking at these numbers is, that is peak power and torque. What you forget is with new cam profile, and improved breathing, is the torque curve starts much lower with more available torque through to peak. Plus nothing beats extra displacement for power and torque improvements. IMHO

[gchinsr]

sorry all to double tap
Cheers
Greg

[mongoswede]

Ill admit that when I read you were paying $7k for an a built gas engine I nearly coughed up a lung. The performance numbers on it look good and if the build and finish quality are all top notch then its a little easier to understand....add to that any warranty and the turn key appeal and that's another plus. I go around in endless circles when thinking about rover engine swaps. There is a certain appeal to the stock rover engine for its simplicity. There is appeal to a rover v8 for the sound and grunt...then there are all the v6, v8, turbo 4, and diesel possibilities. If I ever ever build my 3 door 109 I am leaning towards a merc 300td engine.

Good luck with the acr unit and be sure to post pics, performance reviews etc. When it all comes together.

[gchinsr]

I was lucky to find a low mileage used on on Ebay UK, it's at ACR as we speak, and is having the head removed to check internal condition. All the ancillaries,are being replaced, and replacing the points with an electronic unit. I was just about to swap a TDi, when I found this engine. Thing is, any body with basic skills, or any garage can fix this motor, it doesn't get much simpler, other than No points, which can be swapped out. Another benefit that is overlooked as well, is extra breathing capacity of the motor does wonder at higher altitudes as well, with a simple jet change for nose bleed heights. You have near V8 power, at a fraction of fuel usage, and a heck of a lot less weight. With the constuction of the Hi roof adding only about 20k, with low COG, Light weight interior, and super efficient lighter engine, this is the best combination for an expedition type camper I could come up with. There is no one size fits all, this is what I think is the best of available components for my son, and my trip to South America, at about 40% the cost of new.

[KevinNY]

Actually a Rover V8 weighs a good bit less than the 2.25 unit. Your gas mileage won't be much different either, my ACR 2.25 got about 11-12MPG.