Stage 1 109 5 door

[Terrys]

Try these two also:

http://www.landroverclub.net/Club/HTML/Stage_One_reg_rare.htm

http://www.stage1v8.org.uk

I like to send the people who argue there is no such thing as an SWB Stage One to the first one.

[leafsprung]

swb wasnt really a production model . . . Its like saying there were swb forward controls . . .

[disco2hse]

swb wasnt really a production model . . . Its like saying there were swb forward controls . . .

They went through a prototyping and design phase, after which they were made on a production line, in a production factory, for customers to buy. What makes that not a production model? The volume of production is irrelevant. If they were produced it is because they were a production model.

What would you call a 101 forward control? Certainly not a long wheel base.

[leafsprung]

No I dont think 20 odd examples counts as a standard production model They aren't listed as a production model, nor supported by factory literature (sales brochures, parts catalogs etc.) Nor do they fit the VIN numbering scheme. No I dont consider the 101 to be SWB. This is a swb FC:

[Terrys]

swb wasnt really a production model . . . Its like saying there were swb forward controls . . .

I don't disagree. Though 24 is more than a prototype, it doesn't make it a 'production' model. I was merely pointing out to the nay sayers that there IS such a thing as a SWB Stage One. 2 of the Trinidadians are on Tortola, and, having seen them, there is nothing prototypical about them . . .

[leafsprung]

there were 48 land rover prototypes . . . I have some customers in Trinidad, I will have to have them keep an eye out. I had forgotten that that is where they went. Would be a cool truck though the ultimate stage one has to be the isuzu powered ones from OZ

[Terrys]

there were 48 land rover prototypes . . . I have some customers in Trinidad, I will have to have them keep an eye out. I had forgotten that that is where they went. Would be a cool truck though the ultimate stage one has to be the isuzu powered ones from OZ

My son's started out from OZ, went to Kenya, but it came here as a 3.5, and is now a 3.9
The 2 SWBs I know wento ver to Neville and Theo Burke. Nevilles dad was the first LR dealer in the Carribean.
48 Stage One swb prototypes? that's interesting, I wonder where the others went, and if they were special orders or just the limited production models after the first 4 prototypes. All the literature I've seen said 4 prototypes, and 24 production (sic) vehicles. James Taylor did a piece on them. I don't recall if he said 'limited production, or 'production' Who cares, it's splitting hairs.
The swb FC is very funky looking, more so than a regular 2B.
Do you have a Stage One? Have you made a winch bumper for it? PM me if you want to do another.

[Skookumchuck]

Will a standard 110 winch bumber fit the Stage one or do I need to order one for a 109? also what bull bar and possibly a new rear bumper with a reciever hitch. thanks in advance for the answer.

[leafsprung]

I have a stage one (1981 3 door java green). I was going to make a winch bumper for it. It has the weird bumper bracket things on the front of the frame horns. Im guessing yours is the same? I dont think a series or defender bumper would fit nicely.

-Ike

[Skookumchuck]

Is there anyone that you know who has ade on or it just a custom job deal?

[Firemanshort]

Stage One Winch Bumper

The Stage One has just enough frame and body from both the Series and the Defender that neither a Series or Defender bumper will fit.

I am not aware of anyone that sells a current production winch bumper for the Stage One.

I built my own with some help.... (there was a whole write up on the old G&R forum but I can not access it now - and I lost my build photos in a hard drive crash)

Basically, this is a 4x4 square tube of 3/16th thick steel with the center cut out and folder forward. Custom mounts to the frame to mimic a Series bumper mount (with some extra beef added).

[lrdukdog]

Old G&R bumper

Here ya' go http://gunsandrovers.yuku.com/topic/...ch-Bumper.html
We need to keep this stuff.
Jim Wolf

[Terrys]

Firemanshort, I remember your bumper from G&R and thought it was the most professional custom I had seen. I think you should consider making some more. I inquired of another custom builder who makes series stuff, but never got an answer.
A series bumper will go on a stage one, but it's to close to the radiator panel and front edges of the wings. I recall having to do some grinding, but the hole spacing on the hornswas the same. It didn't look right but better than the Roo bumper from Oz, via Africa

[Firemanshort]

re: a series bumper - the Stage One has some extender platers that move the Series bumper forward. The attached photo - you can see the metal tabs extending from the frame horn - those bolt on / bolt off.

Most Series bumpers mount the winch to the rear of the bumper so the winch fits in the space made by the recessed radiator panel. This does not work for the Stage One since the radiator is moved forward.

I would love to play in the garage and make steel bits for Land Rovers. I fear that the Stage One demand nationally would only be about 6 (maybe 10) and my skills are way to amatuear to inflict on anyone else.

[Skookumchuck]

Thanks for the info and the link I am going to build a winch bumer as soon as I get the truck here. You did a great job on it.