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  • MarkMukilteo
    Low Range
    • Nov 2009
    • 17

    POWDER COATING

    This past weekend I drove up to Vancouver, BC and picked up my front disk brake conversion kit from Rocky Mountain. Jeremy is a great guy, and in a few weeks/months I'll have stopping power!

    As part of the disk enhancement process, I'm considering powder coating my steel, 16" rims. I searched out the original Land Rover cream color a few years ago and painted my rims, but most likely due to my painting ineptness, they never really "took" - paint chipping off, looking sloppy.

    I'm planning on removing Rover's tires and having the rims sandblasted and powder coated at a local shop, where they have a cream color that approximates the original Land Rover color.

    Has anyone else had experience powder coating steel Land Rover rims? My past experience with PCing has been positive, but I've never done rims.

    Any thoughts?
    Thanks,
    Mark
  • knac1234
    4th Gear
    • Nov 2010
    • 442

    #2
    I can only speak for my Hillman Imp restoration. Technically, the steel rims were supposed to be something called sea foam (shade of white).
    Powdercoaters of course did not have this, so I went with a semi-gloss white. They look great and should hold up well. I am positive that it would be a good move on the LR rims if you can find a color that you are satisifed with.

    I am wondering if I can powdercoat my hardtop (want to get something that approximates the limestone color). The thought is that it would be less than painting, and have a nice finish that is very durable.

    Julian
    Julian
    72 Series III NAS
    03 Disco
    04 Freelander (sold, but still running strong)
    2011 LR2 (Fuji White/Tan....per the wife )
    65 MGB / 73 MGBGT
    71 RHD Hillman Super Imp

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    • TeriAnn
      Overdrive
      • Nov 2006
      • 1087

      #3
      I'm running Discovery I steel wheels on my 109 and had them powder coated a little over a year ago. So far they still look like new when I clean the road & trail dirt off.

      Since my truck is 1973 Jaguar British Racing Green, with Triumph Ice white top (matches Martin Walter colour on my Dormobile roof) I decided limestone would look all wrong on my rims. So my disco wheels are semi gloss black. I think it goes better with BRG.


      Taken last summer
      You can see by looking at the other Dormobile that Limestone is a very different colour than Martin Walter painted their Dormobile tops. The Dormobile roofs match gel coat white with is a match to Triumph Ice White.



      The coating looks like new when the wheels are clean. I'm just not good at keeping them clean. But this is the 7 inch wide Disco I wheel in case anyone is not familiar with it.
      -

      Teriann Wakeman_________
      Flagstaff, AZ.




      1960 Land Rover Dormobile, owned since 1978

      My Land Rover web site

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      • masonater
        3rd Gear
        • Nov 2007
        • 329

        #4
        You will have no problem powder coating rover wheels, as long as they are VERY clean. I did my 47 cj3a steel wheels years ago in battleship grey and they look good as the day i did them. I would recommend this process: bead blast, bake, wipe with acetone, bake, apply powder, bake to cure. May be overkill but this way you have no reason to not have a perfect finish. Check out eastwood kits and do it your self, you'll probably save some serious dough. Get a cheap oven off craigs list and you'll be powder coating everything you can (like me) beware rover wheels dont fit in a standard oven without the door staying open just a little, no big deal just cook longer.
        1970 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
        1971 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
        1982 Mercedes 300TD
        1989 RRC
        1993 D110
        1994 RRC LWB
        1995 RRC SWB Brooklands Edition
        1995 RRC LWB
        1995 RRC LWB
        1995 Disco
        1996 GMC 2500 Suburban
        1996 Disco
        1997 Disco
        2001 RR P38
        2005 LR3 HSE
        2006 RR HSE

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        • masonater
          3rd Gear
          • Nov 2007
          • 329

          #5
          Julian,

          You can powder coat just about anything, the problem is finding an oven large enough to cure it. You can get infrared lamps that do the trick but they are tough to keep a consistant finish on larger parts because you have to move it around the part every 20 min or so. I know some mega powder coating places have ovens large enough you could drive your whole car into. just a thought
          1970 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
          1971 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
          1982 Mercedes 300TD
          1989 RRC
          1993 D110
          1994 RRC LWB
          1995 RRC SWB Brooklands Edition
          1995 RRC LWB
          1995 RRC LWB
          1995 Disco
          1996 GMC 2500 Suburban
          1996 Disco
          1997 Disco
          2001 RR P38
          2005 LR3 HSE
          2006 RR HSE

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          • bkreutz
            4th Gear
            • Apr 2010
            • 408

            #6
            Originally posted by MarkMukilteo
            This past weekend I drove up to Vancouver, BC and picked up my front disk brake conversion kit from Rocky Mountain. Jeremy is a great guy, and in a few weeks/months I'll have stopping power!

            As part of the disk enhancement process, I'm considering powder coating my steel, 16" rims. I searched out the original Land Rover cream color a few years ago and painted my rims, but most likely due to my painting ineptness, they never really "took" - paint chipping off, looking sloppy.

            I'm planning on removing Rover's tires and having the rims sandblasted and powder coated at a local shop, where they have a cream color that approximates the original Land Rover color.

            Has anyone else had experience powder coating steel Land Rover rims? My past experience with PCing has been positive, but I've never done rims.

            Any thoughts?
            Thanks,
            Mark
            Mark,
            I had my wheels powdercoated at Performance Coatings in Everett about 6 months ago, I found a powder code somewhere on this site and they were able to obtain it and they came out great. Maybe they still have some left? (or at least they know where to get it). HTH (If you want to see what they look like in person, send me a PM and you could come down and take a look at mine, I live in Shoreline.)
            Gale Breitkreutz
            '03 Disco
            '74 Series III 88 (sold, 4/13)
            '47 CJ2A

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            • 69Bugeye
              Low Range
              • May 2009
              • 24

              #7
              I had mine done locally.
              The coater gave me some samples to take home which I matched up to some un-weathered paint I found after removing the headliner. To my eye it is a perfect match.

              X2 on what masonater said about baking prior to coating. It's called off-gassing and any reputable coating shop will not coat a suspect part without doing an off-gassing run first. Grease, oil or other contaminants that may be trapped in seams, welds, pits etc., will cook off during this process allowing further cleaning prior to coating. It takes longer and cost more (oven, time) but will prevent rework/warranty work due to poor results. As I said, "reputable" shops will do this on their own accord. You should probably ask questions prior to dropping off your parts.

              In a perfect world, I think that painting is better for our application. I only say this due to the higher risk of chips and scratches due to the environments that we operate in. A painted wheel is much easier to repair with a simple touch up kit. Powder coating while more durable, is less easy to repair and once there is a void in the coating, it is easier for water to migrate under the edges and start its evil mission. Ultimately, I went with powder due to cost. I am also having the roof and sides coated when I have them ready.

              I can get the specs on the powder used if anyone would like.

              Beware the lollipop of mediocrity.
              Lick it once, and you'll suck forever.

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              • Skookumchuck
                2nd Gear
                • Oct 2010
                • 269

                #8
                I would love to have the powder specs. I am going to build a winch bumper for the stage 1 and I am planning to powder coat it.
                1968 Series IIA
                1987 D90 Kid's project
                German wirehair Pointer (Wood Hound)

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                • knac1234
                  4th Gear
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 442

                  #9
                  Masonator-thanks for the tips of baking previous to the final coating. Not sure if my shop did it on my Imp stuff, but it came out durable and looking good! Oh and yes, they jokingly asked if I wanted to push my Imp into the oven, as it was big enough to powder coat it!!

                  69bugeye-if you have a powder coat "code" that approximates limestone, please post it or PM me. I won't be doing any of this until likely the summer, but would like to start getting some ideas ready in preparation.

                  Cheers,
                  Julian
                  Julian
                  72 Series III NAS
                  03 Disco
                  04 Freelander (sold, but still running strong)
                  2011 LR2 (Fuji White/Tan....per the wife )
                  65 MGB / 73 MGBGT
                  71 RHD Hillman Super Imp

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                  • lrover109
                    Low Range
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 40

                    #10
                    Had mine done by the boys as Les Schwab a number of years ago - cleaned up quite nice and didn't cost a ton either

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                    • east high
                      3rd Gear
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 337

                      #11
                      Originally posted by lrover109
                      Had mine done by the boys as Les Schwab a number of years ago - cleaned up quite nice and didn't cost a ton either
                      Nice. I went by Les Schwab yesterday to take advantage of this service, but they're were closed :/

                      Do you remember if their color selection had something close to limestone?
                      '67 sIIa 88

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                      • lrover109
                        Low Range
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 40

                        #12
                        not sure - I had an ex MOD so went with the idea that they would be black from the get go-they did have a number of other colors though just never bother to look at them

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                        • 69Bugeye
                          Low Range
                          • May 2009
                          • 24

                          #13
                          The color code for my wheels is "RAL 1015".
                          (see post #7 this thread for pic)
                          Any powder supplier should be able to supply this color.
                          Beware the lollipop of mediocrity.
                          Lick it once, and you'll suck forever.

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                          • RoverForm
                            3rd Gear
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 348

                            #14
                            taking these dirty beasts in this week for a powder coat in 10% gloss matte black.
                            i'm having a local shop do it, they blast, clean and coat for $45/wheel. sounds reasonable but we'll see how they turn out. even a rough result would be better than the current chipped and flaking forrest green.

                            has anyone had a shop powder coat wheels in such poor nic? how'd they turn out?







                            the color should turn out something like this:

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                            • rover03
                              Low Range
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 8

                              #15
                              Those rims will definitely look better after a fresh coat of powder. masonater had some excellent tips. I work at an industrial paint and powder coat shop in Southern NH (USA) and we powder car, truck and motorcycle parts all the time. One tip that works well for us is to give the parts a light hand-sanding (220 & 320 grit) after sand/bead blasting. We've done a bunch of custom 4X4 bumpers and corvette frames... sadly no rover frames.

                              And if the shop you are working with doesn't have the color match you want in stock you could certainly get it (there are a bazillion colors) but it does drive costs up to order custom powder.

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