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  • Momo
    3rd Gear
    • Dec 2006
    • 347

    #16
    The BFG KMs are now discontinued and the KM2 is the mudder to get. I just ordered a set from America's Tire/AKA Discount Tire Co. which has locations in 23 states or so. Mounted and balanced- $1060 and change.

    They price match even internet prices so look around. Tire prices are up due to petroleum and steel costs but shop wisely and you will do okay.

    I love the old XCL and XZL tires but Linus is right, if you cheese one, you're SOL.

    Concerning radials: the 235/85R16 is the biggest you want to go if you have a bonnet mounted spare. Any more width they look stupid on the bonnet, plus you lose some visibility over obstacles.

    Or you could easily go bias ply and get the original look, but there are a few big disadvantages:

    1. Bias ply tires get flat spots when they sit and then go "whump whump" for about a half mile until you warm them up. Function of crossply design.

    2. The kind of look you want is expensive now because almost nobody is running those tires on a road licensed vehicle. They are now basically farm/military use tires. Look to pay $200-250 per tire unless you go Chinese or Taiwanese.

    3. Bias Plys have no flotation so airing down is futile. Sidewall stiffness.

    4. Many bias plys of the offroad/AT type have a speed rating of only 50-55 mph so be careful before you buy. If you do any highway mileage this is an issue (granted there is some cushion built in by the mfr but buyer beware).

    5. They are noisy and they track poorly in the wet. They don't shed water like a radial and they will hydroplane much earlier.

    6. Unlike a radial, which flexes and hugs in cornering, they will "skip" in hard cornering.

    7. They are generally noisier on pavement than a radial (bias ply designs were conceived before noise factors were ever considered).

    8. You'll be lucky to get 15-20k miles out of them unless most of your use is off road.

    On the plus side:

    1. They have "the look".

    2. They are very tough tires, and if most of your driving is off road, they will last a good long while.

    Check these out: http://www.stausaonline.com/light-truck/index.html
    '60 SII Station Wagon
    '64 SIIA 109 Regular
    '68 SIIA 88 Station Wagon

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    • Cutter
      4th Gear
      • Feb 2009
      • 455

      #17
      Bias ply rides really hard, I have some on mine that look great but damn they are rough. Even with a travel mug my coffee erupts out all the time. The PO put these on right before selling and they are in great shape, but sometimes I wish I had radials.

      and in case you are curious mine are courser traction lt tires, you can see them on a google image search
      Last edited by Cutter; 01-13-2011, 05:34 PM. Reason: added tire name
      _________________________________________
      1986 3.5l 110 SW Austrian Feurwehr

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      • 73series88
        5th Gear
        • Oct 2009
        • 587

        #18
        ive got bf goodrich mud t/a 31/10.5 15

        i drive to work every day and there great on the trails as well
        its just personal preference. tall short wide skinny
        to each there own.
        aaron
        73 series III 88 2.5 na diesel daily driver
        67 series 2a 88 RHD sold
        88 RRC sold
        60 mga coupe

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        • Winston-Rover
          Low Range
          • Feb 2007
          • 27

          #19
          Originally posted by 73series88
          ive got bf goodrich mud t/a 31/10.5 15
          are they mounted on standard Series wheels? I thought that tire would be too wide for the standard wheel. do you have any pics?

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          • gudjeon
            5th Gear
            • Oct 2006
            • 613

            #20
            215/85/16 LT radials I found work perfect and mimmick the compromise 7.00x16 size. I used to run 235's and would never go back. The small, ciped block tread is what works to get grip. Works great when you don't have the power to spin wheels fast enough to fling off muck. last for a long while and don't moan on the highway.

            Each to their own of course. Usual caveats, etc.

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            • pgeorgeson
              Low Range
              • Dec 2010
              • 37

              #21
              So I dropped by the tire shop today and had them pull out some 235/85/16s. They didn't look as wide as I feared. Therefore, given that, and given that there is a much wider selection and better availability, I now think that is the direction I am going to go.

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              • Momo
                3rd Gear
                • Dec 2006
                • 347

                #22
                Well here are some 235/85 R16s on a 109 wagon to give you a visual. These are BFG MTs. I just put 'em on today.
                '60 SII Station Wagon
                '64 SIIA 109 Regular
                '68 SIIA 88 Station Wagon

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                • Linus Tremaine
                  1st Gear
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 178

                  #23
                  nice tires mo....

                  What did you do about that rim?
                  1968 Land Rover "Park Ranger" camper **SOLD**
                  1967 109 **SOLD**
                  NADA Dormobile #601 **SOLD**
                  1965 IIA 88 2.5NA Diesel
                  1963 Mercedes 300se
                  1975 Volvo C303
                  KJ6AQK

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                  • 73series88
                    5th Gear
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 587

                    #24
                    yep standard series 3 wheels
                    no problems
                    aaron
                    73 series III 88 2.5 na diesel daily driver
                    67 series 2a 88 RHD sold
                    88 RRC sold
                    60 mga coupe

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                    • Terrys
                      Overdrive
                      • May 2007
                      • 1382

                      #25
                      Originally posted by pgeorgeson
                      So I dropped by the tire shop today and had them pull out some 235/85/16s. They didn't look as wide as I feared. Therefore, given that, and given that there is a much wider selection and better availability, I now think that is the direction I am going to go.
                      Wise choice. I have found that anything wider means more rapid wear of swivel pins and ball joints.

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                      • cousindave
                        1st Gear
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 192

                        #26
                        If you're going 235/85/16 look at the interco truxus. I had them on my series IIA and they were awesome in the mud and snow. I had them mounted on steel nato wheels.

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                        • Momo
                          3rd Gear
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 347

                          #27
                          Hi Linus... the rim is going to get trued, just have to find someone local or it will be cheaper to just replace.
                          '60 SII Station Wagon
                          '64 SIIA 109 Regular
                          '68 SIIA 88 Station Wagon

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                          • CRiordan01
                            Low Range
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 76

                            #28
                            Anyone have any experience with Yokohama Geolander A/T-S tires? Looking to put either 225/75R16 or 225/70R16 on my Series III SWB. Currently have a set of Nangkook(?) Wide Conquerors 205R16s that desperately need replaced (at least the front do). Any thoughts on the Geolanders? Thinking of ordering today...
                            ~ Corey

                            1974 Series III RHD SWB
                            2003 Freelander

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                            • Jim-ME
                              Overdrive
                              • Oct 2006
                              • 1379

                              #29
                              My son put 33X12.50X15s on his Jeep. I was impressed enough that I will put a set of 16s on the Rover eventually. They may not be the greatest off road tire but they wore very well of his Jeep.
                              Jim

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                              • SafeAirOne
                                Overdrive
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 3435

                                #30
                                Originally posted by CRiordan01
                                Anyone have any experience with Yokohama Geolander A/T-S tires? Looking to put either 225/75R16 or 225/70R16 on my Series III SWB. Currently have a set of Nangkook(?) Wide Conquerors 205R16s that desperately need replaced (at least the front do). Any thoughts on the Geolanders? Thinking of ordering today...
                                I put some on my wife's FJ Cruiser a couple of days before the huge Halloween snow storm we had here last year and I couldn't get the car to break traction in 8 inches of snow. I ended up going back and having a set of 235/85-16s put on the 109, since it was due for new tires anyway. They cancelled winter this year, so I can't say how they did in the snow on the 109, but I don't remember having any problems on the few occasions where we got an inch or two. I haven't done any serious off-roading with them, though they were sufficient to pull my son's enormous truck out of a frozen puddle/mudhole.

                                I drive with them on the highway about 34 miles round trip 5 days a week, but I have no idea if these tires are noisy or not.
                                --Mark

                                1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

                                0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
                                (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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