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  • masonater
    3rd Gear
    • Nov 2007
    • 329

    Military crankshaft pulley removal

    I've searched all the threads with the word "pulley" and all seem to focus on a different set up than i have. I would like to take off the crankshaft pulley so i can clean it up for powder coat but i've been staring at it for 2 days trying to think of some way to remove it. All the giant wrenches, adjustable wrenches, pipe wrenches, ect just dont seem to be doing the trick. I attached a picture to be clear of what set up i have, RN told me there is a special tool but it is NLA. Im sure someone on here has come up with something that works. The motor is out and on a stand to i can stop it from turning thats all i got. Any help would be appreciated
    Last edited by masonater; 03-31-2011, 12:17 AM.
    1970 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
    1971 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
    1982 Mercedes 300TD
    1989 RRC
    1993 D110
    1994 RRC LWB
    1995 RRC SWB Brooklands Edition
    1995 RRC LWB
    1995 RRC LWB
    1995 Disco
    1996 GMC 2500 Suburban
    1996 Disco
    1997 Disco
    2001 RR P38
    2005 LR3 HSE
    2006 RR HSE
  • cousindave
    1st Gear
    • Jan 2007
    • 192

    #2
    Is there any way to get a srew driver or bar in that hole? You might have to heat up the screw driver to bend it to get it in.

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    • jac04
      Overdrive
      • Feb 2007
      • 1884

      #3
      You could always cut off the cone part, then use an impact wrench with a socket.

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      • masonater
        3rd Gear
        • Nov 2007
        • 329

        #4
        Originally posted by jac04
        You could always cut off the cone part, then use an impact wrench with a socket.
        I thought about using a screw driver and adding a bend, i already bent some old bolts i had laying around and that didnt work, i feel that a screwdriver would do the same.

        Jac,
        That is a really good idea, although id hate to saw it off. But if it comes to that im busting out the sawzall. I guess i could always weld it back on for the heck of it.
        1970 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
        1971 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
        1982 Mercedes 300TD
        1989 RRC
        1993 D110
        1994 RRC LWB
        1995 RRC SWB Brooklands Edition
        1995 RRC LWB
        1995 RRC LWB
        1995 Disco
        1996 GMC 2500 Suburban
        1996 Disco
        1997 Disco
        2001 RR P38
        2005 LR3 HSE
        2006 RR HSE

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        • SafeAirOne
          Overdrive
          • Apr 2008
          • 3435

          #5
          I forget exactly what the name for this type of wrench is but they are out there and available (they're not rover-specific). I think the round part is actually hinged where it meets the handle, but I can't recall 100% if that's true or not.

          The tab fits in the hole on the crankshaft nut (sorry for the crude drawing):



          You could probably make one pretty easily too.
          How? Go to home depot, get a piece of flat barstock and cut an appropriate size circle out of one end,
          then weld an appropriate bolt to it to serve as the tab that will fit in the hole on the nut:

          --Mark

          1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

          0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
          (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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          • jac04
            Overdrive
            • Feb 2007
            • 1884

            #6
            Originally posted by SafeAirOne
            I forget exactly what the name for this type of wrench is...
            It is called a "hook wrench" or sometimes a "hook spanner wrench". Google will give you quite a few places to buy them.

            masonater- Does the conical piece unscrew from the starter dog? If so, you may be able to get it off with a hook wrench. If not, my experience is that you will need an impact wrench to get that starter dog off.

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            • masonater
              3rd Gear
              • Nov 2007
              • 329

              #7
              Originally posted by jac04
              It is called a "hook wrench" or sometimes a "hook spanner wrench". Google will give you quite a few places to buy them.

              masonater- Does the conical piece unscrew from the starter dog? If so, you may be able to get it off with a hook wrench. If not, my experience is that you will need an impact wrench to get that starter dog off.
              I like the idea of making one like in the above post, i have lots of junk metal around here i bet i can come up with something.

              Jac, no it is welded on to the starter dog. Ill try making something first if that doesn't go well ill try cutting the cone off and then the good old impact gun.

              thanks again
              1970 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
              1971 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
              1982 Mercedes 300TD
              1989 RRC
              1993 D110
              1994 RRC LWB
              1995 RRC SWB Brooklands Edition
              1995 RRC LWB
              1995 RRC LWB
              1995 Disco
              1996 GMC 2500 Suburban
              1996 Disco
              1997 Disco
              2001 RR P38
              2005 LR3 HSE
              2006 RR HSE

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              • Terrys
                Overdrive
                • May 2007
                • 1382

                #8
                Originally posted by jac04
                You could always cut off the cone part, then use an impact wrench with a socket.
                Have you completely lost you mind Jeff? Do you know how in-demand the MOD starter dog is? It beats the s**t out of struggling to get the crank into the civi starter dog.

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                • jac04
                  Overdrive
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 1884

                  #9
                  ^^ Not that I know of Terry, but if you see it roaming around please let me know. (well, I guess you just did).
                  Never had much trouble gettin' my crank into a civvy starter dog.

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                  • Terrys
                    Overdrive
                    • May 2007
                    • 1382

                    #10
                    If you did, Jeff, they will find it when the snow melts.
                    Mason, I have a box of pin spanners and hook spanners, fixed and adjustable. I will have a poke tomorrow. You're welcome to borrow one. What's the diameter of the shank, behind the cone?

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                    • SafeAirOne
                      Overdrive
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 3435

                      #11
                      Originally posted by jac04
                      It is called a "hook wrench" or sometimes a "hook spanner wrench". Google will give you quite a few places to buy them.

                      Ahh...that's it. You jogged the old memory. It's an adjustable pin spanner (the hook-variety spanner won't work as it has a flat, not a pin to engage the hole, but it's otherwise the same). Like these (PDF catalog page) that are available through Reid Supply.

                      I admit to cringing a bit when I read about sawing the cone off. But it's not my rover, so...
                      --Mark

                      1973 SIII 109 RHD 2.5NA Diesel

                      0-54mph in just under 11.5 minutes
                      (9.7 minutes now that she's a 3-door).

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                      • cousindave
                        1st Gear
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 192

                        #12
                        A part pipe wrench,like those used in water main installations would tan that right off problem is it would leve some nasty shark bites on the cone, but you could always repair that.

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                        • rickv100
                          1st Gear
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 143

                          #13
                          Is there a picture of what the correct tool is? You could always fabricate something similar if you know what you need to make.

                          Rick
                          73 xMOD S3 109
                          52 M37

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                          • masonater
                            3rd Gear
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 329

                            #14
                            I decided im not going to sleep until i got this thing off, glad i did because its late. I ended up making a tool out of scrap metal and an old bolt. To my amazement it came off the first time i used it. I took a piece of angle iron about 2 feet long, cut out a groove to fit around the cone and then welded a bolt i chopped up to hook into the hole on the cone, hit it with a BFH and off it came! I high fived myself then bead blasted the the stubborn parts and will powder coat tomorrow. In fact the tool worked so well im going to powder coat it too.

                            Thanks for everyones help!

                            Mason
                            Last edited by masonater; 03-31-2011, 12:19 AM.
                            1970 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
                            1971 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
                            1982 Mercedes 300TD
                            1989 RRC
                            1993 D110
                            1994 RRC LWB
                            1995 RRC SWB Brooklands Edition
                            1995 RRC LWB
                            1995 RRC LWB
                            1995 Disco
                            1996 GMC 2500 Suburban
                            1996 Disco
                            1997 Disco
                            2001 RR P38
                            2005 LR3 HSE
                            2006 RR HSE

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                            • Lalo88DK
                              1st Gear
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 116

                              #15
                              Heres an alternative method, (german I think) do remember to remove sparkplugs before doing this.



                              Oh and look out for the very loud scratch noises in the end of the clip , but this method should work, I have a friend who tried it.

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