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  • masonater
    3rd Gear
    • Nov 2007
    • 329

    clutch slave rebuild question

    I have the allmakes rebuild kit for my clutch slave cylinder and im ready to put it back together. The kit i have has a small rubber piece that i didn't come across during disassembly. It looks like it could go on the end of the plunger where it meets the piston? I attached a picture, its the tiny rubber part.

    Also, should i just use dot 4 brake fluid to lube up the parts during assembly? or is there something better?

    Thanks, Mason
    Last edited by masonater; 03-31-2011, 12:20 AM.
    1970 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
    1971 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
    1982 Mercedes 300TD
    1989 RRC
    1993 D110
    1994 RRC LWB
    1995 RRC SWB Brooklands Edition
    1995 RRC LWB
    1995 RRC LWB
    1995 Disco
    1996 GMC 2500 Suburban
    1996 Disco
    1997 Disco
    2001 RR P38
    2005 LR3 HSE
    2006 RR HSE
  • siii8873
    Overdrive
    • Jul 2007
    • 1013

    #2
    I think thats the dust cover for the bleeder screw
    THING 1 - 1973 88 SIII - SOLD
    THING 2 -1974 88 SIII Daily Driver - SOLD
    THING 3 - 1969 88 SIIA Bugeye Project
    THING 4 - 1971 109 SIIA ExMod - SOLD
    THING 5 - 1958 109 PU
    THING 6 - 1954 86" HT

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    • Alaskan Rover
      Low Range
      • Apr 2010
      • 54

      #3
      If you're talking about the small rubber piece at the bottom of the picture, SeriesIII is correct, that IS the dust-cover for the bleed screw.

      As for what clutch fluid to use...certain brake fluids WILL eat through the natural rubber (latex) seals on Rover hydraulics. So whatever you have been using on your brake system...if it hasn't been turning black and eating up your master cylinder/wheel cylinder seals. then THAT'S the fluid I would use. If your brake fluid is in anyway black, then DON'T use that type fluid. In that case, you'll want to order the Genuine Land Rover brake fluid that RoversNorth has started selling recently.

      NOTE: Clutch fluid and brake fluid are the same, at least for slow speed vehicles like Rovers.
      1970 Series IIA 88".,...the REAL Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.

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      • masonater
        3rd Gear
        • Nov 2007
        • 329

        #4
        ahh a cap, makes sense...

        i had been using dot 4 before i took everything apart, never had an issue with leaks or seals being eaten. Ill use the RN stuff when i get her all back together.

        Thanks
        1970 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
        1971 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
        1982 Mercedes 300TD
        1989 RRC
        1993 D110
        1994 RRC LWB
        1995 RRC SWB Brooklands Edition
        1995 RRC LWB
        1995 RRC LWB
        1995 Disco
        1996 GMC 2500 Suburban
        1996 Disco
        1997 Disco
        2001 RR P38
        2005 LR3 HSE
        2006 RR HSE

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        • singingcamel
          4th Gear
          • Oct 2006
          • 398

          #5
          Its fun to rebuild these things ,just to say we did it , My advise on any cylinder that needs to be rebuilt. Replace it..Its just a matter of time ,sooner than later you'll be back..

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          • siii8873
            Overdrive
            • Jul 2007
            • 1013

            #6
            I kind of agree with singing camel. I have rebuilt cylinders and ended up replacing them because it didn't help. If the cyl bore is in excellent shape a rebuild could be OK. If there is any corrosion or scoring your most likely wasting your time and money. After saying this I am rebuilding my clutch master but as I said the bore is perfect.
            THING 1 - 1973 88 SIII - SOLD
            THING 2 -1974 88 SIII Daily Driver - SOLD
            THING 3 - 1969 88 SIIA Bugeye Project
            THING 4 - 1971 109 SIIA ExMod - SOLD
            THING 5 - 1958 109 PU
            THING 6 - 1954 86" HT

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            • masonater
              3rd Gear
              • Nov 2007
              • 329

              #7
              I agree with both of you folks. Mine were in near perfect shape to begin with, never leaked or had any issues with scoring or pitting. I figured while i have the entire rover in pieces for 20 bucks or whatever it was i may as well get new rubber seals being 41 years old... I powder coated the housings and put them back together, lets hope they dont start leaking now. While we are on the subject can anyone tell me what these rubber washer type parts are that came with the clutch master rebuild kit? i hope this is not as dumb as my last mystery part, but i didn't come across these during the disassembly.
              Last edited by masonater; 03-31-2011, 12:19 AM.
              1970 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
              1971 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
              1982 Mercedes 300TD
              1989 RRC
              1993 D110
              1994 RRC LWB
              1995 RRC SWB Brooklands Edition
              1995 RRC LWB
              1995 RRC LWB
              1995 Disco
              1996 GMC 2500 Suburban
              1996 Disco
              1997 Disco
              2001 RR P38
              2005 LR3 HSE
              2006 RR HSE

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              • kwd509
                1st Gear
                • Aug 2010
                • 180

                #8
                too many choices....

                w/in the heading of rebuilding is also the gold plated (not literally) option of resleeving via an outside service and then doing the rebuild. I think it is about the same cost as replacing with genuine parts.....perhaps a little more.

                That doesn't sound like an obvious choice to me but, a rover restorer I confer with prefers this..... says that 1) aftermarket quality is so inconsistent, and that 2) even current genuine parts are not always good, and that 3) by re-sleeving you permanently eliminate the bi-metal corrosion problems.... and have an essentially endlessly rebuildable cylinder.
                #3 has a seductive quality that requires a reality check....
                thoughts? comments?

                tis important since all my hydraulics require replacement or rebuilding.
                thanks.

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                • siii8873
                  Overdrive
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 1013

                  #9
                  If that's a master cyl the rubber washers are for the cap. Should only be one. If it's a slave no idea.
                  THING 1 - 1973 88 SIII - SOLD
                  THING 2 -1974 88 SIII Daily Driver - SOLD
                  THING 3 - 1969 88 SIIA Bugeye Project
                  THING 4 - 1971 109 SIIA ExMod - SOLD
                  THING 5 - 1958 109 PU
                  THING 6 - 1954 86" HT

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                  • masonater
                    3rd Gear
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 329

                    #10
                    Originally posted by siii8873
                    If that's a master cyl the rubber washers are for the cap. Should only be one. If it's a slave no idea.
                    I dont have the later type with a cap, its for the master cyl which is in the picture to the left of the washers. Its a allmakes rebuild kit if that helps anyones memory.
                    1970 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
                    1971 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
                    1982 Mercedes 300TD
                    1989 RRC
                    1993 D110
                    1994 RRC LWB
                    1995 RRC SWB Brooklands Edition
                    1995 RRC LWB
                    1995 RRC LWB
                    1995 Disco
                    1996 GMC 2500 Suburban
                    1996 Disco
                    1997 Disco
                    2001 RR P38
                    2005 LR3 HSE
                    2006 RR HSE

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                    • 69Bugeye
                      Low Range
                      • May 2009
                      • 24

                      #11
                      masonater.

                      Often times the rebuild kits will contain parts for a few different types of cylinder. It's a cheaper way for the vendor to market their kits.

                      Just replace like with like and throw away whatever is left.

                      steve
                      Beware the lollipop of mediocrity.
                      Lick it once, and you'll suck forever.

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