Sliding out of 4th while OD engaged.

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  • tuko
    Low Range
    • Apr 2008
    • 22

    Sliding out of 4th while OD engaged.

    On my hybrid I have rebuilt series transmission with a Fairy Overdrive. Both components work great in my hybrid but the past few months she has begun to slide out of 4th when the overdrive is engaged.

    Testing to see if it was the transmission is the culprit, I've driven the hybird at various speeds in 4th direct trying to make it slide/jump out of gear, but it won't. But once I have the overdrive engaged and going down the highway a few miles she will slide out of gear again. I've tried this at various speeds and there was no difference.

    With reading on this forum I seen many complain of noisy overdrives but I have to say that mine is quiet, theres no additional noises over that of the transmission. Shifting is perfectly smooth, not binding or grinding. This would lead me to think that the overdrive is not at the point of being worn out, but possibly the coupling clutch sleeve is worn.

    I found here: http://www.rockymountainspares.co.uk/?page_id=41 that you can buy an "OVERHAUL KIT FOR FAIREY OVERDRIVE COUPLING".

    Has anybody 1) had the same problem with their fairy overdrive? 2) installed the above overhaul kit and 3) cured their similar problems?


    Cheers,
    Todd.
    My Series 3 Hybrid
    300Di Powered
    Småland Traxx - Offroad Aventure Tours. More info can be found on Facebook.
  • I Leak Oil
    Overdrive
    • Nov 2006
    • 1796

    #2
    Have you checked to make sure the main shaft nut is tight?
    Jason
    "Clubs are for Chumps" Club president

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    • tuko
      Low Range
      • Apr 2008
      • 22

      #3
      Originally posted by I Leak Oil
      Have you checked to make sure the main shaft nut is tight?
      Jupp, tight as she can be.


      Todd.
      My Series 3 Hybrid
      300Di Powered
      Småland Traxx - Offroad Aventure Tours. More info can be found on Facebook.

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      • I Leak Oil
        Overdrive
        • Nov 2006
        • 1796

        #4
        Well then that's certainly odd...I can't think of any reason why the OD would have anything to do with the transmission slipping out of gear. When you tested it with the OD disengaged did you run it at the same RPM and grade as you did with it engaged?
        The clutch sleeve is working engaged or not but if the nut is tight the internals of the OD shouldn't affect the transmission.
        Strange for sure...
        Jason
        "Clubs are for Chumps" Club president

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        • Terrys
          Overdrive
          • May 2007
          • 1382

          #5
          Originally posted by I Leak Oil
          Have you checked to make sure the main shaft nut is tight?
          This was my first thought too.

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          • tuko
            Low Range
            • Apr 2008
            • 22

            #6
            I agree with you both, I saw on this forum that there is a lot of discussions about overdrives so that's why I asked here.

            All the other gears stay engaged, it's just 4th thats giving me this headache. BTW, the test runs were on the same road at the same speeds as I usually know where to expect the trans to slide out of gear.

            I can check the main shaft nut again as it's been a year since I've had the OD removed.


            Todd.
            My Series 3 Hybrid
            300Di Powered
            Småland Traxx - Offroad Aventure Tours. More info can be found on Facebook.

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            • rejeep
              4th Gear
              • Apr 2010
              • 420

              #7
              just in case you haven’t checked.. or looked closely..

              I had this problem in my series when I first installed my Roverdrive..
              well kind of..

              the bend on the overdrive cane was slapping into the gearbox cane enough to slip out of gear.. the shifter didn’t move enough to visually notice at first.. took several minutes to figure it out.. put a slight bend in the cane and no problems..
              1971 SIIa 88" NAS Dauntles V6
              1974 SIII 109" RHD

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              • I Leak Oil
                Overdrive
                • Nov 2006
                • 1796

                #8
                I can see that popping the OD out of gear but I don't see it popping his tranny out of 4th gear.
                Jason
                "Clubs are for Chumps" Club president

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                • rejeep
                  4th Gear
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 420

                  #9
                  4th is down and to the right
                  the OD lever moves forward on my Roverdrive
                  while engaged in 4th my OD lever did come in contact when shifted until I bent it..
                  I believe the gearbox is in 4th in this picture.

                  1971 SIIa 88" NAS Dauntles V6
                  1974 SIII 109" RHD

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                  • I Leak Oil
                    Overdrive
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 1796

                    #10
                    OK gotcha! So the OD lever was physically pushing the main gear lever forward, right? (for some reason I can't view your picture)
                    Jason
                    "Clubs are for Chumps" Club president

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                    • LaneRover
                      Overdrive
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 1743

                      #11
                      Mine did the first time I drove it so I changed the OD lever. I could see how if it was touching a little that one could knock the other out of gear.

                      Brent
                      1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
                      1965 109 SW - nearly running well
                      1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
                      1969 109 P-UP

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                      • tuko
                        Low Range
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 22

                        #12
                        Interesting response guys and to be honest I would have never thought of that one one. I'll take a look at the OD gear lever but if my memory servers me correctly I seem to think that my lever looks like the image provided, with plenty of clearance from the transmission gear lever.


                        Todd.
                        My Series 3 Hybrid
                        300Di Powered
                        Småland Traxx - Offroad Aventure Tours. More info can be found on Facebook.

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                        • rejeep
                          4th Gear
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 420

                          #13
                          well that picture was before i put a bend in it.
                          even if it doesnt clash upon engagement it could vibrate enough to nudge it a bit
                          1971 SIIa 88" NAS Dauntles V6
                          1974 SIII 109" RHD

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