So, You think you had a Bad day?

[rickv100]

Terry,

Sorry to hear about the losses, will the antique barn wood be salvaged or thrown away?

Rick

[Mercedesrover]

Sorry about this. Lots of it going around right now.

Terry, I've got a couple free weekends and lots of chainsaws/chain/axes/etc. If you need a hand this weekend or any, let me know. Glad to come out and help.

[Skookumchuck]

Sorry about the barn. There is a guy up here selling a series pick up top with good glass for $300.00 if you want his name and contact info PM me and I will pass it on to you.

[Terrys]

Rick, The barnwood will doubtless be available.The exterior is 'barn red' but the interior is natural and almost 100 years old. LOTS of timbers. If the barn had been built 50 years earlier, it wood still be standing. There are many very old, timber framed (mortised & tennoned joints) around here. This one was built in the '20s and was sawn lumber, and not much joinery. This whole area was famous for tobacco used as wrappers for premium cigars, There has been a resurgence in their business, and even some new tobacco sheds are going up. Too bad most of the fertile land has gone to office 'parks & campuses)
Jim, thanks for the offer. If I get a chance, i'm going to just cut up the timbers now resting on the cars, but there is so much snow, formerly on the roof, it's not a job that can be tackled before April. There's over 3' of snow just getting in there. A friend has an excavator(and 2 landies), and will be bidding for the job once the owner settles up with his ins. co. He'll just fill dumspters and be in and out in less than a week. Funny how these things come full circle. The owner asked me if I'd build him a timber frame replacement. If I were 10 years younger, and still had my apprentices.......
Jim, you around mid-day tomorrow? I'm headed to Stanfordville for an overnite.

[Mercedesrover]

Jim, you around mid-day tomorrow? I'm headed to Stanfordville for an overnite.

I'm always here! Sure, stop by. Got anything you want to sell/trade? Still looking for a .357 lever gun and a Model 36 or 60 J-frame.

Edit: Just bought a pre-safety Marlin 1894C on Gunbroker.

[AAXD]

Here's the mini and TD.


The 88 used to look like this.



Here it is now.

[Winemark]

That is a brutal turn of events, really do need to focus on the idea that these are objects that can be fixed not humans that could be lost forever. My heart still goes out to you guys

[jimrr]

terry;
Hate to see this, it is some consolation that no one or yourself caused this though. heck of a thing to happen, it sounds like their is lots of hope for the rover though.

[jp-]

Damn sorry to see that happen.

As an Engineer, I like to think I could look at a building and evaluate it's structural integrity (at least where exposed columns or beams can be seen). Just looking at the aftermath, I really am not sure that I would have trusted that barn. When I build things I put in a HUGE safety margin. I add a safety factor of 40% or more (typical is only 10%). Yeah, it costs more but with the ramp up of global warming, I think we are all going to be needing buildings with higher snow load ratings! Hell, I live in Mississippi and we have already had 4 snows this year!

I know what you mean about the really old barns. That's when they built stuff to last. Those days are gone, unless you build it yourself. Sad really.

[Skookumchuck]

How is it with Global warming I am sitting here with more Cold More Snow and colder summers. Just wondering

[Terrys]

JP, when this barn was built, if you told someone you were an engineer, it would be assumed you drove a steam locomotive

[mongoswede]

How is it with Global warming I am sitting here with more Cold More Snow and colder summers. Just wondering

Well technically if the average global temperature increases then more water evaporates from the oceans, lakes, and rivers. The increase in airborne moisture results in more severe thunderstorms during the summer and more aggressive weather patterns. In effect it becomes more difficult to predict the weather because the increased temperatures increase the overall energy of the weather system. So winter snows can/could become greater. In a way its the earth's attempt to level itself out and get back to a more stable situation. Raise the average temperature enough and all hell breaks loose...should be fun to watch in the next few years. The flip side of global temperature increases (whether natural or man made) is that for every degree of temperature increase there is 1000 feet less snow in elevation. So if you live in an area where the water supply is dependant on snow pack then there is a direct impact.

[jp-]

That was sarcasm! Obviously, I don't subscribe to that GW BS. And if you do, you need to look up the secret emails that came out of the GW crowd.

[mongoswede]

That was sarcasm! Obviously, I don't subscribe to that GW BS. And if you do, you need to look up the secret emails that came out of the GW crowd.

Sarcasm or not I was just explaining why the weather has been so erratic. George W or not.

[amcordo]

Well technically if the average global temperature increases then more water evaporates from the oceans, lakes, and rivers. The increase in airborne moisture results in more severe thunderstorms during the summer and more aggressive weather patterns. In effect it becomes more difficult to predict the weather because the increased temperatures increase the overall energy of the weather system. So winter snows can/could become greater. In a way its the earth's attempt to level itself out and get back to a more stable situation. Raise the average temperature enough and all hell breaks loose...should be fun to watch in the next few years. The flip side of global temperature increases (whether natural or man made) is that for every degree of temperature increase there is 1000 feet less snow in elevation. So if you live in an area where the water supply is dependant on snow pack then there is a direct impact.

+1 for being smart.