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  • Crash
    Low Range
    • May 2008
    • 56

    Rear axles

    In looking at part manuals it is apparent that some rear axles have a stub axle thatis an integral part and others a bolt on version is used. Mine are integral and are off a 1973 sIII.

    It looks like some of the later stub axles did not come with a removable distance piece.

    Is there any significant difference or does anyone know when the change was made?

    C
  • Terrys
    Overdrive
    • May 2007
    • 1382

    #2
    Originally posted by Crash
    In looking at part manuals it is apparent that some rear axles have a stub axle thatis an integral part and others a bolt on version is used. Mine are integral and are off a 1973 sIII.
    Are you sure about that?

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    • siii8873
      Overdrive
      • Jul 2007
      • 1013

      #3
      I know there are some after market axles that have integral drive flanges with the axles. Don't think original equipment did.
      THING 1 - 1973 88 SIII - SOLD
      THING 2 -1974 88 SIII Daily Driver - SOLD
      THING 3 - 1969 88 SIIA Bugeye Project
      THING 4 - 1971 109 SIIA ExMod - SOLD
      THING 5 - 1958 109 PU
      THING 6 - 1954 86" HT

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      • Terrys
        Overdrive
        • May 2007
        • 1382

        #4
        I got the impression he was talking about the stub axle, which bolts to the rear axle housing, not the axle shafts. I have also seen axle shafts with drive flanges attached, but never seen a stub axle as part of the casing. Axle casings are just a fabricattion of formed steel parts, but the stub axle is machined, and threaded. That would be pretty difficult to do as a one piece assembly.

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        • I Leak Oil
          Overdrive
          • Nov 2006
          • 1796

          #5
          Never heard of it on a stock rover axle so....MUST...SEE...PICTURES!
          Jason
          "Clubs are for Chumps" Club president

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          • masonater
            3rd Gear
            • Nov 2007
            • 329

            #6
            is that what your talking about? Its all one piece. mine is on a 70 EX-MOD 2a 109 no reason to think that is a aftermarket axel unless some troops swapped it out.
            Last edited by masonater; 03-31-2011, 12:20 AM.
            1970 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
            1971 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
            1982 Mercedes 300TD
            1989 RRC
            1993 D110
            1994 RRC LWB
            1995 RRC SWB Brooklands Edition
            1995 RRC LWB
            1995 RRC LWB
            1995 Disco
            1996 GMC 2500 Suburban
            1996 Disco
            1997 Disco
            2001 RR P38
            2005 LR3 HSE
            2006 RR HSE

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            • Terrys
              Overdrive
              • May 2007
              • 1382

              #7
              Originally posted by masonater
              is that what your talking about? Its all one piece. mine is on a 70 EX-MOD 2a 109 no reason to think that is a aftermarket axel unless some troops swapped it out.
              Yes, exactly. Do yourself a big favor and don't put your hubs on and put it back down on it's own weight, because that's when you'll find out what looks like one piece, isn't one piece. When they have been on gthere a long time, the rust in place, but you'll find that the rear stub axle has a recess machined in the back and fits over the ring on the casing. Put the nuts on and give it a good whack with a 2/4. Now it's two pieces. Amongst my many, I had a '70 2A Exmod also.

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              • I Leak Oil
                Overdrive
                • Nov 2006
                • 1796

                #8
                Originally posted by masonater
                is that what your talking about? Its all one piece. mine is on a 70 EX-MOD 2a 109 no reason to think that is a aftermarket axel unless some troops swapped it out.
                No that's just a regular rear stub. See the bolt circle? That's where the stub bolt to the flange on the axle casing. On the rear, as you have pictured, the stub is the female and the flange on the case is the male side.
                Jason
                "Clubs are for Chumps" Club president

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                • Mercedesrover
                  3rd Gear
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 343

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Terrys
                  ...Do yourself a big favor and don't put your hubs on and put it back down on it's own weight, because that's when you'll find out what looks like one piece, isn't one piece....
                  What he said.

                  While you are right where you are now, knock it apart, clean up the flanges, reseal and put it back together. If you ever break one in the bush it will be easier to take apart.
                  www.seriestrek.com

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                  • Terrys
                    Overdrive
                    • May 2007
                    • 1382

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Mercedesrover
                    If you ever break one in the bush it will be easier to take apart.
                    Yeah, like deep in the 'Sconset Rain Forest.

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                    • Mercedesrover
                      3rd Gear
                      • Oct 2006
                      • 343

                      #11
                      You know me, Terry....My crap doesn't break until I'm 100 miles from nowhere.
                      www.seriestrek.com

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                      • masonater
                        3rd Gear
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 329

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Terrys
                        Yeah, like deep in the 'Sconset Rain Forest.
                        hahah awesome

                        thanks for the info i would have never thought to look anymore into these, so im clear are you saying put the hub nuts on then whack it?

                        ps sorry for the hijack
                        1970 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
                        1971 Series IIA 109 EX-MOD
                        1982 Mercedes 300TD
                        1989 RRC
                        1993 D110
                        1994 RRC LWB
                        1995 RRC SWB Brooklands Edition
                        1995 RRC LWB
                        1995 RRC LWB
                        1995 Disco
                        1996 GMC 2500 Suburban
                        1996 Disco
                        1997 Disco
                        2001 RR P38
                        2005 LR3 HSE
                        2006 RR HSE

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                        • Terrys
                          Overdrive
                          • May 2007
                          • 1382

                          #13
                          Yup, pretty much. You take your ball peen hammer and go around the back of the flange, tapping outward (not love taps, show it you're serious), but I'm usually less patient. I'd just put the nuts back on, wrap a rag around it, and take a 3' piece of 2x4 and give one good whack down, if necessary, one up, left and right. There will be a thin paper gasket between the casing and stub axle, and the rim on the back of the stub axle will need to be cleaned very well before going back on, as it's a tight fit.

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                          • Crash
                            Low Range
                            • May 2008
                            • 56

                            #14
                            I will post pic's on Friday. I have two rear axles both with the stub axle apparently attached. I looked very closely and if they are separate pieces I will be very suprised. Just splitting the distance piece to remove it from the stub axle should have separated the pieces!

                            Till Friday!

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                            • Terrys
                              Overdrive
                              • May 2007
                              • 1382

                              #15
                              You need to get the wire brush out and give the back side of the flange a good working over. You'll see the ring which is the mating joint of the stub axle that fits over the casing flange. That's not to say that someone didn't weld up the joint, which would make no sense. You loose one stub axle and are willing to throw the whole thing out? Go through any of the parts books, you won't find one supplied that way from the factory.

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