alternator kit installation questions (update with pics)

[bkreutz]

x2 on pulling the coil wire. I worked at a Lexus dealer where one of my shop buddies didn't do this, the engine started and ripped water and trans cooler lines off as it whipped around. He was not a happy fellow.

[lrdukdog]

already

"must be the maple syrup"
Let me know when it's time please.
Jim Wolf

[Terrys]

"must be the maple syrup"
Let me know when it's time please.
Jim Wolf

You mean "Is It Soup Yet?
It's time.

[I Leak Oil]

Wow, all that just to install an alternator? Sell the kit, buy Ike's or make the existing brackets work. Still less work than removing all that.

[chrismccarthy]

put it back on??

Put a socket on the dog, rest your breaker bar on the top of the left frame rail, pull the coil wire and bump the starter. Works like a charm.

yeah that works to take if off, but that means the torque to replace it to the crank must be 100-150#? how do you replace it without turning the engine over?

[TeriAnn]

yeah that works to take if off, but that means the torque to replace it to the crank must be 100-150#? how do you replace it without turning the engine over?

One could put the gearboxes into low range first, lock front hubs then set the mechanical brake. maybe have someone step on the hydraulic brakes if needed.

[Terrys]

how do you replace it without turning the engine over?

A common trick is to remove the starter and put a large screwdriver into the ring gear, while someone else tightens the dog. As TeriAnn says, just have someone step on the brake. I think she said something about lo range,first gear, but that is the highest ratio, least torque load for the engine. Hi range 4th is the lowest ratio, greatest torque load to the engine. Put your hand crank in and try and move the truck either way. You'll see it's much easier to move the higher the ratio (lowest gear) applying the least torque through the starter dog to crank. Whatever gear/range, stepping on the brakes should hold it to get it torqued down.

[TeriAnn]

I think she said something about lo range,first gear, but that is the highest ratio, least torque load for the engine. Hi range 4th is the lowest ratio, greatest torque load to the engine.

Opps sorry. Got it backwards. I'm still working out clockwise and counterclockwise too. Can't remember if you are looking at the clock or you are the clock & your arms are the clock arms.

[Terrys]

Opps sorry. Got it backwards. I'm still working out clockwise and counterclockwise too. Can't remember if you are looking at the clock or you are the clock & your arms are the clock arms.

Happens to me all the time. My daughter gets her biggest laugh of the day watching me tie my shoes. She wants to video it and put it on Youtube.

[bmohan55]

When I did my front end engine work in order to "freeze" the motor I pulled the #1 spark plug and put a length of rope down in the cylinder. As I torqued the dog down the piston wedged against the rope and froze the crank allowing me to tighten to spec. Reversed the crank a bit and pulled the rope out, no problems.

Considering my wife's "love" of my Series I did not trust her to keep her foot on the brake....

[kevkon]

I can't believe anyone would go to all of this trouble for an alternator bracket. If the motor was out and on a stand, ok. Not to mention the potential problems that this proceedure can bring about. Is there some great advantage to this mount?

[Terrys]

I can't believe anyone would go to all of this trouble for an alternator bracket. If the motor was out and on a stand, ok. Not to mention the potential problems that this proceedure can bring about. Is there some great advantage to this mount?

I can't disagree, it does seem like a bit of a bother when you compare the ease of installing Ikes bracket. (or, simply leaving well enough alone)
However, this topic does have usefull hints for someone wanting to change their front seal. I will never forget the time I pulled my front pulley to change the front seal, on my very first series, nearly 40 years ago. when I went to reinstall the pulley, it pushed the woodruff key out of it's slot, and it fell into the bowels of the front cover. I believe I may have used every single expletive I learned in 8 years of Merchant Marine service.

[LaneRover]

I believe I may have used every single expletive I learned in 8 years of Merchant Marine service.

Wow! That must have lasted as long as it took to get the thing back out!

[chrismccarthy]

rope-a-dope?

wait a sec, i call BS on that 'rope' trick, wouldn't the chance of fibers ruining the cylinder liner & rings kinda WAY out weigh the benefit of doing this work by oneself? really? rope in the cylinder?? my brother was a magician of some note, but even he couldn't make rope disappear quite as effectively...

[chrismccarthy]

torque

no one said what the torque is on that piece of hardware?