2.6 use same alternator as 2.25?

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  • Cutter
    4th Gear
    • Feb 2009
    • 455

    2.6 use same alternator as 2.25?

    My alt is out on my 2.6, it is a rebuilt unit from RN and I still have the original Lucas unit in a box. The rebuilt unit only lasted 5-6 years based on when the PO told me he swapped it. I see they are no longer available as rebuilt, but I'm wondering if I should buy the proline unit(assuming it fits), rebuild what I've got at a local shop, or try an aftermarket upgrade. Obviously the added amps from an aftermarket would be nice as well as the ease of replacement later on, but I'm not hugely interested in fabricating brackets at this point in time, though I will if it is the best option.
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    1986 3.5l 110 SW Austrian Feurwehr
  • LaneRover
    Overdrive
    • Oct 2006
    • 1743

    #2
    Personally I would try and get the alternator rebuilt locally.
    1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
    1965 109 SW - nearly running well
    1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
    1969 109 P-UP

    http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...2&l=64cfe23aa2

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    • Lord Icon
      1st Gear
      • Jul 2008
      • 176

      #3
      Lucas? Not bloody likely

      I upgraded my Lucas bit for a ac delco 10 si 63 amp output. I used the Ike Goss Pangolin brackets. It worked flawless and was a big help at the winter romp during my 5 hour winch extraction. The original Lucas "thing" would have gone up in smoke.
      While I am all for keeping it real ... The upgrade was easy, the results are fantastic and the parts are easily found and replaced anywhere parts are sold if ever needed....
      Where is the down side again?
      Whence came you my brother ? From the East....

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      • I Leak Oil
        Overdrive
        • Nov 2006
        • 1796

        #4
        You can try to have it rebuilt if you're really into the no building brackets thing.
        You really can't go wrong with making a Delco fit though. Make it work, when you need to change it out just head down to ANY parts store to exchange it. Oh, and you'll probably be getting more amps out of the basic delco than you ever will out of the Lucas pile of wire.
        Feeling any peer pressure yet?
        Jason
        "Clubs are for Chumps" Club president

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        • Cutter
          4th Gear
          • Feb 2009
          • 455

          #5
          Sorry Guys, I took it across the block to the local shop that does rebuilds, I really understand the logic behind the modern upgrade, but I'll cross that bridge next time.

          I actually went to an autozone to get an ac delco unit but (get this) the 16 year old kid behind the counter didn't want to go get it to let me look at it because he saw my old one and said it had the wrong mounting style- literally the words out of his mouth were "don't make me do a lot of work to go get that thing if you don't know you are going to buy it." I looked at the older person next to him behind the counter to get a reaction, which there was none so I turned around and left.

          At the moment my patience for working on the truck is reaching a limit, mainly because I am trying to fit everything on schedule with my 1 year old's nap schedule on the weekends and it is putting a bit too much rush on jobs I don't want to rush. Really its not my patience for working on the truck, but my wife's patience....
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          1986 3.5l 110 SW Austrian Feurwehr

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          • siiirhd88
            3rd Gear
            • Oct 2006
            • 369

            #6
            I think all of the Rover, MG, Triumph, etc. Lucas alternators used the same mounting brackets, but there were wire plug differences.

            Some of the MG guys use a 55 amp Bosch alternator from a 1980 Ford Fiesta (I think I have one, somewhere), and others use a 110 amp unit from a Saturn. Both supposedly will mount to the original brackets, but the Saturn unit must have the pully changed from a serp to the V belt type.

            On my old Sprite I used a Subaru alternator, but one alternator ear or the water pump ear had to be cut down to fit.

            I'll try to find the Bosch Ford alternator and post a pic.

            Me, I'd just modify to fit a Delco....

            Bob

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            • LaneRover
              Overdrive
              • Oct 2006
              • 1743

              #7
              My favorite is when they want to know the exact car the dang thing came out of in order to see if it produces electricity when it spins.
              1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
              1965 109 SW - nearly running well
              1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
              1969 109 P-UP

              http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...2&l=64cfe23aa2

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              • Terrys
                Overdrive
                • May 2007
                • 1382

                #8
                Asking an Autozone clerk for help is like asking the bag boy at Stop & Shop for his best recipe. Autozone sells mostly crap and their knowledge matches. I'm surprised they can be programed not to ask if "you want fries with that".
                I only deal with NAPA and Carquest.

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                • yorker
                  Overdrive
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 1635

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Terrys
                  Asking an Autozone clerk for help is like asking the bag boy at Stop & Shop for his best recipe. Autozone sells mostly crap and their knowledge matches. I'm surprised they can be programed not to ask if "you want fries with that".
                  I only deal with NAPA and Carquest.
                  Service at all of them seems to have gone to hell or at least become highly variable. I had a NAPA I have dealt with for 20 years lie and tell me they don't carry a part that 4 other more distant Napa had available. "nope we don't carry those". Obviously I was talking to some kid who didn't want to be bothered looking it up, I must have interrupted his coffee break or something.

                  Oddly enough the local Autozone has an old counterman who must have retired from a real autoparts store and picked up a part time job at the 'zone. He is awesome. Quality autoparts countermen are a real rarity nowadays.
                  1965 SIIa 88",1975 Ex-MOD 109/Ambulance, 1989 RRC, blah, blah, blah...

                  Land Rover UK Forums

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                  • Cutter
                    4th Gear
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 455

                    #10
                    My local autozone is in the inner city here and the guys at the counter are mostly pretty good, not knowledgeable particularly, but at least they put the effort in and are somewhat helpful. Now the guys at the alternator shop I went to are the real deal, old, smokey, filthy and a bit of no bs attitude.
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                    1986 3.5l 110 SW Austrian Feurwehr

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                    • junkyddog11
                      1st Gear
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 195

                      #11
                      I wondered about that alternator when the Toad was in the shop. Looked like a pain in the arse to convert to Delco, not at all like the 2.25. I can't blame you at all for getting it rebuilt. Nothing really wrong with the unit (other than being worn out).
                      Matt Browne
                      www.overlandengineering.com
                      "resurecting junk through engineering"

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                      • Cutter
                        4th Gear
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 455

                        #12
                        Yeah, I'm now wondering if I should get the spare that came with the truck rebuilt for a back up, or just to sell to put towards more exciting things like fixing my leaking swivel joints, or off road goodies. I'm thinking its probably worth keeping...
                        _________________________________________
                        1986 3.5l 110 SW Austrian Feurwehr

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                        • LaneRover
                          Overdrive
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 1743

                          #13
                          I am a big fan of having a spare when it isn't something readily available at Napa.
                          1958 107 SW - Sold to a better home
                          1965 109 SW - nearly running well
                          1966 88 SW - running but needing attention
                          1969 109 P-UP

                          http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...2&l=64cfe23aa2

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                          • gudjeon
                            5th Gear
                            • Oct 2006
                            • 613

                            #14
                            I run a Delco with little mod to make fit and a kit to rebuild the whole thing is only 40 bucks.That and my 10 dollar Ohm meter tells me if my diodes, stator, rotor and slip rings are still good. With any retrofit part, you just tell they guy behind the counter what the application is, instead of telling him what you are trying to retrofit it to. Work for me. My alternator is from a 1986 Pontiac Acadian 4 speed. Thats all they need to know. I'll do the rest.

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                            • Cutter
                              4th Gear
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 455

                              #15
                              gudjeon, is that on a 2.6? love to see a pic of how you have it mounted if that is the case..
                              _________________________________________
                              1986 3.5l 110 SW Austrian Feurwehr

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